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Originally Posted by Hostile

Actually, I believe if you look real closely you'll find that in each of the cases you just mentioned it was their teams who lost to the better team.

I know that might confuse you a bit since you have no grasp of QB at all, but at least I'm trying to help. Perhaps an example from History might really assist you. Okay, I got my avatar back, I'm feeling charitable.

In 1988 USC, led by Rodney Peete, beat cross town rival UCLA, led by Troy Aikman. By your absolutely ridiculous logic (ARL) that would make Peete the better QB option of the two. Heisman trophy voters agreed with your ARL and Peete was runner up in the voting to Barry Sanders. He also won the Johnny Unitas Award as the Nation's best college QB and was the PAC 10 player of the year in 1988. Psst, UCLA is also in the PAC 10 so he beat him out there too. Add to this 2 trips to the Rose Bowl his last 2 years of college ball.

[View Full Quote]By your ARL, he's clearly the better prospect. But not so fast...

Jimmy Johnson, the former Head Coach of the Cowboys who won 2 Super Bowls, disagreed with your ARL and those voters. He selected Aikman with the 1st overall pick as the best QB in college football.

Oh, in case you're wondering, Peete was selected by the Lions with the 2nd pick...of the 6th round, and the 9th QB taken in that Draft. He also spent a year in Dallas...as Aikman's backup QB.

In case you weren't aware, Aikman, the elite QB of the 2 we are discussing here, went on to win 3 Super Bowl Championships. That's the ultimate goal of any football player, and especialy a QB. Peete, that guy who by your ARL was the better of the 2 because he won that 1988 matchup, well, he never won a Super Bowl and he spent more of his career as a backup than he did as a starter.

Now, you're probably thinking I dislike Rodney Peete. Well, you'd be dead wrong yet again. You see, Rodney is from right here in the town where I live. He played at Sahuaro High School, which just happens to be where I got my start in coaching and I know his dad, Willie. He's a legend here. I haven't met him personally but I'd like to, and not just because his wife is gorgeous. He comes from good stock and I admire his people.

Oh, just for your gee whiz collection and to amplify my claim Troy Smith is too short. Peete was listed at 6'1" just like Smith but at the Combines it was clarified to 6'0", just like I suspect Smith will be. Or 5'11" which I've heard said on Mike & Mike a couple of times.

I now return you to your ARL. Try and spin this and all you'll do is throw up from being so dizzy.

Who mentioned Rodney Peete. You spent a lot time talking about a player whose name I never mentioned. Do you have ADD? Rodney Peete is nowhere near as talented as Troy Smith, no matter what his height turns out to be. VY is another name I mentioned. Both players play big in big games and Vince doesn't play small like his pocket predecessor at Texas, Chris Simms. I'm an excellent judge of QB play. You say you hate stats when they don't help your argument, but when they do, you act as if stats are every thing. I think you're either confused or just slow.