Originally Posted by iceberg
i agree with that 100%. typically we do interpret the data and come to conclusions, right or wrong. i try to never pin myself as an "it can only be like this" scenario but it may not always come across like that.
no one can doubt for example, it's getting hotter. i used to wear a jacket going to school in 1982. now in the fall i don't even put on a windbreaker. then again it was a drama lettermans jacket and i was pretty proud of it.
but we don't know enough after that to say for sure man is the sole reason for it. this is where i break off the "global warming" parade and think they're just "selling the drama".
as for this article, yea i took it from a military pov until zrin made his comment out it still being less than the national average.
[View Full Quote]businessman fails and loses millions. can be a tad depressing, yes.
soldier has to go back to the line where they've seen hidious things to have to deal with - sure it would suck and push people.
but if the national average is 21 per 1000 and the military is up to 4 points lower than that, again on it's own it doesn't say much. even if the military is "up". new recruits? combat vets? letting more gays in and they don't like it?
what's the suicide rate of dentists? lawyers? parking lot attendants? WWE vets?
you take a slice and look at it all you get is that slice and it alone can be made to mean anything. in this regard it seems it's meant to say "bad war cause it makes our military men kill themselves" - or something like that.
maybe i'm wrong in that but why else would you faktion this off and make it stand alone vs. as part of an overall picture?
unless you *want* it to say a specific message so you hide the rest.
then when people "ask" about the rest or find it on their own, they call the original "agenda" into question and we all get fun debates out of it. : )
The unattractive, ugly truth of this is probably that people under extreme pressure, such as combat, break. It has always happened and it will always happen. When faced with those kinds of pressures, a certain amount of people are going to snape. That's the reality. Not very enjoyable to consider but the truth none the less. These are casualties of war and they are present in every war. The longer you are on station, the more of these you will see. Part of fighting a war IMO. Nothing more, nothing less. Unfortunate but true.