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Old 05-29-2005   #23
davidyee
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Originally Posted by KDWilliams85
Indeed. You have to yield that his opportunity for success has been severely compromised. That's reason enough to be angry.
Wrong, wrong, wrong!!!!!!! He will be a CB in camp and it will become obvious in all the fans, players and media eyes what opportunity Hunter will make of this.

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They are obligated by contract. The Cowboys give a payout if that contract is terminated... aka the signing bonus.
Do you not read??? The Cowboys are not obligated to give Hunter the CB position. Contracts are not signed by position. They are signed with the intent the player is going to make the team, not the position. Ever notice how some players have a position listed on the roster, but all they play is special teams?


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I'm sorry. Let me make a torn ACL fixable by some TLC and time to rest. As for his talent level, granted it hasn't been good. It hasn't been bad either. He was drafted for a reason. He's not some newbie getting burned on every play. He's made plays for the Cowboys. Not very many... but he has. So yeah... cut him some slack.
Sorry no slack for the mouthpiece. Read the piece taken from CowboysScout.com

"As players establish themselves as professionals, their goals change. For many young players, simply making the team seems like the ultimate goal. Then the priority becomes earning a starting spot, or reaching certain statistical (or financial) goals, or making a Pro Bowl or winning a Super Bowl.

Notice the natural progression here. 1. Make team. 2. Earn starting spot.

Gee notice how Hunter wants specific starting spot before #1. Sorry, no slack.

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So you blatantly admit that you show favoritism toward a certain caliber of players. Nobody can crack the starting lineup if that lineup has been already set. Newman and Henry are the starters, hands down. Glenn is that nickel DB. So, where does that leave Hunter? It leaves him vying for that dime spot. Sorry to burst that little bubble, but you can't accomplish that goal when you know going in that you won't be given a chance to do so.
Why do you think he can only gain the dime spot? Is he not good enough to beat the other guys? BP has always promised that any player in camp gets to compete for the listed roster position. I will accept that because I have never seen anything to the contrary.

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Graphic, but accurate. Parcells has destroyed his opportunity to play up to his potential. He can't gain experience if he doesn't play now can he?
Wrong, wrong, wrong. He's stilla CB and has all the opportunity to beat out any camp body. Let's see him do it.

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The only thing immature about it this is how Hunter is being made out to be a plague or a cancer. He's crying about how he's not getting an opportunity. You can't blame him for making his intentions known on the subject. He doesn't have much motivation if his coach has lost faith in him and they're doing everything in their power to crush his spirit.
Good lord, you need help. You make this sound as if we are talking about Dame Alice's Ballet School. If he can't break through he doesn't belong in football!!! For cripes sakes get a grip!!!

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So, forgive me for being the only person that thinks enough of him to give a damn. You want players that don't gripe and moan about their situation.
Yes, shut up and play football. No ballet baies need apply here.

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Sadly enough, it won't happen. And when it does, you accuse them of being a selfish player.
No I accused him of talking too much and not focusing on his football play.

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That's immature.
No you are immature. First for calling me a moron and now second for saying I'm full of crap.

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You'd make an issue of it as well if you knew you could do better but you weren't given a chance to do so. Don't even consider telling me otherwise because I will think you're full of crap.
Now here's where your true colours come out because you make assumptions about me not knowing who I am. If I ever felt from a professional standpoint that I was being impeded I do not go into the lunchroom or call up friends to blabber about my relationship about the boss.

I continue to do my job in whatever capacity I am allowed and begin to actively seek another position. I properly give notice without airing any grievance and move on to a better opportunity. It's called professionalism.


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Success is something you earn but Hunter hasn't had much of a chance to earn his. So, you decide to abandon him because of it?
What? The pundits are asking him to give FS a try because they believe his physical talents would not match up to the incumbents. Nobody is asking him to leave the team! No one is abandoning him. They are asking for him to try a position change.

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Success isn't a measure of declaration. You have a total lack of commitment and still be successful. You can be completely devoted to a cause and still fail.
I'll give this one last try. Remember your comment that you felt Hunter wasn't being given a legitimate chance of success. I don't know why you would misquote me, but I never said success is a measure of declaration. I said success is a measure (as in a measurement against a benchmark) not a declaration (as in I've got lots of money or I'm a CB for the Cowboys!).

From my standpoint as a fan talking about a football player named Hunter, I would deem a success to be on the field, not sitting behind two guys named Newman and Henry. The most immediate success would be winning the open spot at FS. There's nothing more legitimate than that. No one is standing in his way other than Lynn Scott and Keith Davis. I would bet any odds on those two as opposed to Newman and Henry.


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That totally depends on how you deem success. Ironically enough, that's not for you to decide. Hunter may have considered his season a success because he got to play.
Just getting to play would be an abject failure in my opinion and I would think that many Cowboy fans would agree. His ACL should not be in his way given that many before him have successfully oversome the same injury. Hunter would then be a three year man who couldn't crack the starting line up and in BP's and Landry's words. If you don't show something by year three, "hit the road Jack!"

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You are not to gauge his talent in such a manner. I won't say that he was a failure due to his playing or lack thereof. You wouldn't want other people doing it to you so I find your statement rather hypocritical.
My, my testy aren't we? Well unfortunately in the NFL part of territory is dealing with the darts. You don't like it find another sport to follow. I dare you to find another professional sport that pays it's playeres in the millions that isn't subject to outside opinions guaging talent.

You are obviously young. Possibly even a relative, friend of a friend of Hunter's. Who knows, it wouldn't surprise me, but you need to drop this because you are having difficulty here. Give it time because we will all eventually know the cut of cloth Hunter is made of. He can't hide his true self fro the spotlight of the NFL.
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