Originally Posted by Idgit
How they compare to other, good, teams is not relevant now? Interesting. I mean, not interesting, and not a sound argument.
You consider it 'talking honestly' about a team to evaluate them without any context? And we're still ignoring the early rounds and college free agency to prop of a charade of an argument regarding 'proven quality depth.' Well, that makes perfect sense.
I didn't ignore the early rounds. I've said several times in this thread that there isn't an issue with the early rounds. People can go back and look and see you're wrong.
I've ignored college free agency because your claim had nothing to do with it. You said we were on a pretty good run in the draft. That isn't college free agency. Only those on the wrong side of a debate keep searching for firmer footing. I'm addressing strictly your comment about a good run at drafting.
No....other teams struggling too, if that is the case, doesn't make the Cowboys any more successful. They either are or aren't doing a good job of finding talent. As of today, the 4th through 7th round picks the last 3 years, 14 in total, have produced near nothing. Sean Lissemore and a punt returner.
Now again, that could change. These are young players. But you crowned them as quality already. Of course you'll say you haven't, but you did. Otherwise you couldn't claim a pretty good run of drafting and the team doing a good job of acquiring talent. I would never make that claim on any team whose gotten such little production on day 3 of the draft.
I think you find the idea that the team is building depth under Garrett at odds with your campaign against the general management, and it's putting you in a bind you can't get out of. I think that bind has got you talking about foam fingers and trying to deflect the topic away from our recent track record in adding college talent and onto your interpretation of our relative success in drafting in a subset of the rounds that have been available to us. And then even your interpretation of our relative success, I mean, failure in those few rounds is off base.
That's rich. I'm breaking down each pick and talking specifically about the draft classes and I'm the one trying to deflect something. While you're all over the map talking about other teams and undrafted free agency, but you're on point.
Once again you attempt to get into my mind and tell me what I think. You don't have to wonder. Just ask me. The question is can you deal with what I think?
There isn't a fan of this team that would be happier if we were truly on a good run of stacking up quality draft classes. But I refuse to pretend it's so for rooting interest. A close look at each player tells you the production isn't there yet to make such a statement.
I'd bet every dollar I'll ever earn that you never heard of Matt Johnson before the Cowboys selected him. He hasn't played a down of meaningful football since. I'd bet the same that you consider Matt one of those good decisions in our pretty good run of drafting. That's the nonsense I'm talking about. I'll just never do that.
You can question my objectivity all you like. You're not the first. On the flip side, I'm sure we'll find a thread somewhere down the line where I have something critical to say about the team again, and the universe will then swing back into a balance I can live with. We can sit around and talk about how objective I got all of a sudden.
Certain statements are just too over the top. Like attempting to defend the 4th round pick of Akwasi Owusu-Ansah. Show me a Cowboys fan who doesn't call that a bad decision and I'll show you someone who can't be objective about the team.
That's right up there with Jerry Jones being an empty suit, an athletic director, or an owner who runs his team like every other.