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Originally Posted by Risen Star

I didn't ignore the early rounds. I've said several times in this thread that there isn't an issue with the early rounds. People can go back and look and see you're wrong.

I've ignored college free agency because your claim had nothing to do with it. You said we were on a pretty good run in the draft. That isn't college free agency. Only those on the wrong side of a debate keep searching for firmer footing. I'm addressing strictly your comment about a good run at drafting.

No....other teams struggling too, if that is the case, doesn't make the Cowboys any more successful. They either are or aren't doing a good job of finding talent. As of today, the 4th through 7th round picks the last 3 years, 14 in total, have produced near nothing. Sean Lissemore and a punt returner.

[View Full Quote]Now again, that could change. These are young players. But you crowned them as quality already. Of course you'll say you haven't, but you did. Otherwise you couldn't claim a pretty good run of drafting and the team doing a good job of acquiring talent. I would never make that claim on any team whose gotten such little production on day 3 of the draft.

That's rich. I'm breaking down each pick and talking specifically about the draft classes and I'm the one trying to deflect something. While you're all over the map talking about other teams and undrafted free agency, but you're on point.

Once again you attempt to get into my mind and tell me what I think. You don't have to wonder. Just ask me. The question is can you deal with what I think?

There isn't a fan of this team that would be happier if we were truly on a good run of stacking up quality draft classes. But I refuse to pretend it's so for rooting interest. A close look at each player tells you the production isn't there yet to make such a statement.

I'd bet every dollar I'll ever earn that you never heard of Matt Johnson before the Cowboys selected him. He hasn't played a down of meaningful football since. I'd bet the same that you consider Matt one of those good decisions in our pretty good run of drafting. That's the nonsense I'm talking about. I'll just never do that.

Certain statements are just too over the top. Like attempting to defend the 4th round pick of Akwasi Owusu-Ansah. Show me a Cowboys fan who doesn't call that a bad decision and I'll show you someone who can't be objective about the team.

That's right up there with Jerry Jones being an empty suit, an athletic director, or an owner who runs his team like every other.

I've explained exactly what I meant regarding bringing in college talent. It's not a debate. I was making a point, I needed to clarify it, I did, end of story.

There's no mystery here. The early picks are better picks and have a higher success rate than the middle picks because they're higher probability players. The college free agent picks have a higher number of players who have been successful picks despite being lower probability players than the mid-to-late picks simply because there are a lot more of them.

Add to this that the mid-round picks and below are, in general, slower to develop than the early picks because they tend to be developmental players from smaller schools with lesser facilities or because they have problems in their games they need to work on at the pro level which is why the weren't early picks to begin with, and remember that we're talking about what's still an open window for all of these players, and the rest of the pretense here evaporates completely.

Moreover, the same patterns appear with most teams, and we've seen--well some of us have seen--this exactly demonstrated in this thread. You can pretend all you like that the issue is something other than simple probabilities, and you can pretend that I see it the way it actually is because of a metaphorical foam finger or whatever. You're still demonstrably wrong.

And, for the record, I'm not telling you what you think. I'm saying that I don't believe for a minute that you actually believe some of the things you post. There's a difference. In short, you're too smart to believe some of the things you submit, and I'm too smart to take some of them seriously.