Originally Posted by pjtoadie
The Romo/Garrett supporters never cease to amaze me! Yes Elway didn't win a Super Bowl until he had a running game with Davis but making 3 Super Bowls prior to that is no small feat imo! Does "The Drive" not ring a bell to you?! I'm born and raised in Cleveland so I know all about that. If you help your team make 3 Super Bowls win or lose you're not "Mr Choke" imo. If Romo would have led his team to the Super Bowl the last few years but lost it I wouldn't call him "Mr Choke" because he obviously had to play 2-3 good games in the playoffs to even get to the SB. Romo had his chance to drive his team down the field last Sunday with 3 minutes to go and win the game and make the playoffs but he threw his 3rd interception of the game. I like Romo and he puts up great numbers and wins regular season games but for you but to compare his situation to Elway's is laughable [View Full Quote]/>
I would choose Romo over Garrett though!
...but true. You may have lived in Cleveland, but you clearly did not follow the Broncos nor did you follow the NFL and the media storm surrounding Elway. Particularly after his third SB loss and the exit of Dan Reeves as a HC.
Unfortunately you are dropping opinions with very little basis in fact and there are numerous media articles and examples still on Google to this day with damning quotes against John Elway at the time.
It was a very serious situation for SHanahan when he joined the Broncos and it was debatable on whether the Broncos were going to cut ties with John especially since they gave up players and draft picks.
He was considered a "Stupid QB" who would take you to lofty heights and then tear your heart out.
Comments made by Shanahan in later years hinted that he felt John was lazy and he really didn't carry a relationship with John after Elway left the Broncos. Some of it was based on how John left the team, but given hints by former coaches the relationship wasn't really there and Mike had seen what John had done to Dan Reeves first hand.
How bad was the situation with John? Reeves picked Tommy Maddox with his first round pick when everyone in the draft was assuming they would pick Carl Pickens to help John.
We know how those two careers went.
John Elway and his percieved failures was synonymous with "Coach Killer" until Shanahan was brought back as the HC and started down his "process".
He gutted the o-line. Brought in zone blocking. Drafted o-lineman no one wanted cause they were "too small". Got lucky with Davis. Or did he???
How vilified was John Elway? Check to see Ditka's comments on the day Bowlen chose Elway over Reeves.
John was a very good QB who was considered great after the team was moulded by a coach with a plan to minimize John's responsibility to carry the team.
Shanahan understood very well what John was and designed the offence around taking the "BAD JOHN" out of the Denver game plan.
The proof is in the pudding. Elway was hated as much as Romo is today. In fact he was even hated by his head coach at the time.
It's easy to point fingers, it's harder to work on solutions. Shanahan proved with his Broncos experiment it's worth it.