[fanfromvirginia]

Originally Posted by Idgit

I couldn't, and I didn't say that. I agree, it would also be a phantom reason. I said Garrett was the first in a long time to do it in Dallas. You can make a good argument that Parcells did--though I consider us to have rented Bill Parcells for a few years. Before that, you'd have to go back to Jimmy Johnson.



[View Full Quote]I have no idea how much control John Gruden might hypothetically wrest from Jerry Jones. I suspect it's not any more than any other coach is going to be able to wrest from Jerry Jones. I think you probably need to just reconcile yourself to the fact that our owner is going to do things the way he wants to and nothing's going to change that. Certainly, I don't believe that a long-time network play-by-play man or color commentator is going to come in and change that. Not when there are other options available. I also don't think John Gruden's in much position to be demanding much of anything from any NFL owner who might consider hiring him at this point. I don't think the guy's exactly a hot commodity anymore.




Well, I reject that Jerry is like Al Davis, and I reject that just because you work for one difficult personality it somehow makes you an Egomaniac Whisperer. The power structure between a GM/owner and a HC is imbalanced by nature, and there's not all that much a HC can do to alter that. Personally, I think Jason does a great job of managing around Jerry's ego and chaos, and I'd hate to see us lose that just because we're impatient with the rebuilding work on a flawed roster.




That all depends on who you're considering a 'top player.' You know I agree with you that our roster isn't as good as advertised in some key positions. QB is not one of them, though, and any coach who can't see that probably can't see a lot of other important things that any good coach worth his salt really needs to be able to see. All that said, I'd agree that Gruden certainly understands what he's have in Tony Romo.

All that said, there are worse choices out there than John Gruden. I just happen to believe he's not likely to be a significant step up from Jason Garrett. What I ultimately want to see is a coaching dynasty in Dallas. I think JG is capable of that. I say that understanding that he hasn't demonstrated it the last two seasons. I don't really think John Gruden is. Gruden can build you a team that can compete for 4-5 seasons before needing to be disassembled. I'd rather take our chances with what we've got, or roll the dice on a coordinator or college guy who's got a chance to be the next long-term coaching prodigy.

Either way, I expect the team to make progress again this season, so hopefully the point of who replaces JG ends up being moot.

Okay, I'm not on the same page with your argument but and for the Egomaniac Whisperer.