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Originally Posted by xwalker
Mac, I agree with most of your posts, more than most other posts around here; however, this one, IMO, is way off base.
Barrett Jones has more talent than Cooper or Warmack?
I don't see that at all.
I see Warmack and Cooper as similar to NFL players like Carl Nicks and Jahri Evans; whereas, I see Barrett Jones as Kyle Kosier.
Cooper has more power and athleticism than Jones. If Cooper was 6-5 instead of 6-3, he would be an LT, IMO.
[View Full Quote]Warmack has some agility limitations; however, he probably has room to lose some weight and improve in that area; whereas, Jones' athletic limitations will not improve as he gains weight in the NFL. Warmack was listed at 322; however, Fluker was listed a 335 but weighed in at 355 at the Senior Bowl. I think Warmack played at something well over 330. If you look at him on the sidelines when he is near Jesse Williams (listed at 320 lbs), one of those listings has to be way off. There is no way that those 2 players were within 2 lbs of each other.
I think Barrett Jones will measure-in with an arm length that is too short to project to OT.
IMO, Barrett Jones biggest value was his readiness to play early (day-1); however, now with the surgery for the Lisfranc injury, that is in doubt.
I'm not sure I understand the JJ Watt comparison. Watt was a freak athlete with huge upside. His 3-cone is in the complete Freak area for a 6-5, 290 lbs player. There are many CBs with slower 3-cone times.
JJ Watt
Height: 6053
Weight: 290
40 Yrd Dash: 4.81
20 Yrd Dash: 2.71
10 Yrd Dash: 1.64
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 34
Vertical Jump: 37
Broad Jump: 10'00"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.21
3-Cone Drill: 6.88
I need to go back and review some game footage of Barrett Jones. I think kept a few Alabama games on TIVO.
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You guys are just going off this years film on Jones, he was all american guard last year, and all american tackle the year before.
I agree JJ Watts is a freak but he was not when it was time to choose between T Smith and him(we knew Watts was good), I agree I am over the top on this kid, I have watched him excel at every position so I am telling you he does not have any give up or lack of talent, Cooper and Warmack are strong at their given positions, Jones can play their position better or equal. Last year I had this same notion about Donta Hightower who was drafted with the patriots so my history is sketchy at best. My opinion is that Jones after a year in the weight room will be the best lineman on the cowboys Oline and at any position you want to compare other than TE. This all hinges on that lisfranc injury fully healing. I also promise I have not been drinking.