Cowboys draft

[Deputy493]

Originally Posted by dbair1967

hey thats great

he'd be lucky to have half of that here in this scheme

by the way, when Merriman missed those 4 games, did San Diego suffer any? nope...they won all 4 games and still had 14 or 15 sacks without him

David

you can argue ifs and buts all day long, the fact is Merriman has been a lot more consistent and a much better playmaker than Ware........those are the cold hard facts, but keep giving excuses if it makes you feel better about the pick.

Ware is a very good player, but thus far he has not been as good as Merriman, that is a simple fact.

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by Deputy493

you can argue ifs and buts all day long, the fact is Merriman has been a lot more consistent and a much better playmaker than Ware........those are the cold hard facts, but keep giving excuses if it makes you feel better about the pick.

Ware is a very good player, but thus far he has not been as good as Merriman, that is a simple fact.

u sound like bipo and his leftwich fetish

[Woods]

Think draft depends on whether BP stays, whether we keep with the 3-4, TO stays or goes, and FA of course.

Let's assume that we DO stick with the 3-4 and that BP stays and that TO stays.

I don't think we take OL in Round 1.

In FA, I think we get

1 OL (Rivera gone)
1 OLB (Singleton gone)

quite possibly a FS.

In the draft,

We take either one more pressure type defensive player in the 1st.

In the 2nd and 3rd rounds we probably take 1 OL and either a CB or a WR to groom.

[jazzcat22]

Please, no TE's.

[jterrell]

We will not go Cb in round 1. We have Cbs. We do not have safeties, nose tackles, pass rushing DE/OLBs, offensive guards.

We should consider who will be gone.
Its funny but Madden 07 is the best way to handle it.
See whose contract is up and who is back and each position.

We will sign/draft an interior lineman or draft one. I believe we cut Rivera, he has not regained all his strength after the back injury.

We will sign/draft a defensive tackle.

Greg Ellis' status will tell us whether we are looking at first round DE/OLBs or not.
TO's status will determine our WR interest. If he is cut we need another starter not a mediocre guy or pedestrian draft pick.

There are just so many possibilities and concerns it would be crazy to think we'd even be close this early.

All that said you aren't a draftnik if you are completely sane....

I really like LaMarr Woodley and Gaines Adams at OLB/DE.
I really like Laron Landry at safety even though it was probably a bit of down year by his own standards.
I really like Justin Blaylock on the interior line. He's a local kid.


I would almost insanely draft Justin Blaylock in round 1. I am against interior line in round 1 but we have been putrid there for too many years and the free agent route has been less than stellar.

Have to assume we fix the defense with free agency and address WR/DE/OLB based on signing replacements if the concerned parties are waived.

[Rocky]

I know he's not available but Nick Collins of the Packers is a stud Safety. Perhaps a trade: J Jones for Collins. I'll take it right now.

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by Woods

Think draft depends on whether BP stays, whether we keep with the 3-4, TO stays or goes, and FA of course.

Let's assume that we DO stick with the 3-4 and that BP stays and that TO stays.

I don't think we take OL in Round 1.

In FA, I think we get

1 OL (Rivera gone)
1 OLB (Singleton gone)

quite possibly a FS.

In the draft,

We take either one more pressure type defensive player in the 1st.

In the 2nd and 3rd rounds we probably take 1 OL and either a CB or a WR to groom.

if dallas took another rookie fs i would gladly pay to have him shot

[Deputy493]

Originally Posted by LatinMind

u sound like bipo and his leftwich fetish

Difference is, BiPo is a Marshall homer as you are a Fresno homer, Lefty sucks, Merriman does not, Merriman is a dominant force.

Besides I didn't want Lefty or Newman that draft, I wanted Suggs.

[dbair1967]

Originally Posted by Deputy493

you can argue ifs and buts all day long, the fact is Merriman has been a lot more consistent and a much better playmaker than Ware........those are the cold hard facts, but keep giving excuses if it makes you feel better about the pick.

Ware is a very good player, but thus far he has not been as good as Merriman, that is a simple fact.

blah blah blah

put Ware in San Diego's defense and Merriman here, and we'd be having the xact same discussion "why did we draft Merriman when Ware is so much more athletic and productive"

same thing with the Steven Jackson non-sense

it just amazes me that some people continuously believe that no matter what a plyer does someplace else in a totally different scheme, atmosphere or with totally different players, that he'd be exactly the same or better here

David

[Deputy493]

Originally Posted by dbair1967

blah blah blah

put Ware in San Diego's defense and Merriman here, and we'd be having the xact same discussion "why did we draft Merriman when Ware is so much more athletic and productive"

same thing with the Steven Jackson non-sense

it just amazes me that some people continuously believe that no matter what a plyer does someplace else in a totally different scheme, atmosphere or with totally different players, that he'd be exactly the same or better here

David

Actually I hear nothing but blah, blah, blah homerism from you........I have presented facts, you have presented nothing but what ifs.

[MetalHead]

Originally Posted by Deputy493

you can argue ifs and buts all day long, the fact is Merriman has been a lot more consistent and a much better playmaker than Ware........those are the cold hard facts, but keep giving excuses if it makes you feel better about the pick.

Ware is a very good player, but thus far he has not been as good as Merriman, that is a simple fact.

I'm happy to see I'm not alone in that debate.
I agree with you.

Oh as for the draft,stay away from LSU players.

[dbair1967]

Originally Posted by Deputy493

Actually I hear nothing but blah, blah, blah homerism from you........I have presented facts, you have presented nothing but what ifs.

Wade Phillips >>>> Mike Zimmer

what facts have you presented exactly? that Merriman has more sacks? so what...look at how he's used...look at how many plays he does nothing other than rush the QB...Ware doesnt rush the passer every play...look at the blitz designs San Diego uses, I can probably count on one hand how many times we've seen a Cowboy player unblocked to the QB ALL SEASON, however you watch a San Diego game and it happens multiple times per game

they lost their best pass rusher before the season ever started, and they still rolled up a huge number of sacks without him (Foley)...they replaced him with a middle rd pick backup, and the guy produced double digit sacks himself

David

[Deputy493]

Originally Posted by dbair1967

Wade Phillips >>>> Mike Zimmer

what facts have you presented exactly? that Merriman has more sacks? so what...

yeah sacks and production and taking over games defensively on a consistent basis are way overrated, lol

Nice comeback.

The only thing you said in that post that I agree with is Wade Phillips is > than Zimmer, but thanks for pointing out the obvious there.

[burmafrd]

It all comes down to what we do with the coaches and then in FA. No way you can tell who we might want in the draft at this time.

[burmafrd]

Taking over a game- DWare has done that a couple of times. Merriman- that I question. SOme here seem to forget that a LB has to do more then rush the passer. DWares stats in everything except sacks are better then Merrimans. And can anyone seriously say that Dware is in as good a system, with as good support as Merriman?