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Hostile · 02-25-2007

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Originally Posted by jcollins28

Really? Hmm punting aside I fail to see how you come to your conclusion that Folk is the better kicker?

FIELD GOALS Team Cl G FG FGA Pct. FG/G
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1.Medlock,Justin. UCLA SR 13 28 32 87.5 2.15
2. Serna, Alexis.. OSU JR 14 22 29 75.9 1.57
3. Folk,Nick...... ARIZ SR 12 15 20 75.0 1.25
Martinez,Paul.. ORE SR 12 15 22 68.2 1.25

Medlock has a much higher avg and led the Pac 10 in scoring for kickers. He also was at the top or led just about every other statistical category for kickers in 2006. He was not only the best kicker in the Pac 10 but one of the best kickers in the Country.

UCLA is a better offense than Arizona. No doubt about it. 4 of Folk's misses were 45 to 49 yards. On top of this one of a Kicker's duties are kickoffs. Folk regularly not only put it in the endzone he put them out of the back of the endzone.

This is from Scout.com...

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1/24/07

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- Senior Bowl South Team Wednesday Practice Report: I mentioned the surprising lack of power behind the kickoffs of Mason Crosby of the North practice earlier this week. While the South Team elected to use the JUGGS machine for their kickoffs throughout the week of practice, Arizona's Nick Folk has shown a very strong leg in field goal attempts. Attempting 25-35 yard field goals, Folk's kicks were not only splitting the uprights, but clearing them, as well.

Supposedly Crosby is the very best, but Folk outshined him at the Senior Bowl.

Oh and he averaged 44.2 yards per punt and 64 yards per kickoff in 2006. 65 is the absolute best you can average so he was 1 yard shy of absolute best. In other words very few of his kickoffs ever got returned. Teams start with the bsll on the 20 yard line when this kid kicks off. It's just that simple.

He hit a 62 yard FG in the Spring game last year and in practice regularly hits from 65 yards. He has 3 times put kickoffs through the uprights.

That's how I come to my conclusion.
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Dayton Cowboy · 02-25-2007

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Originally Posted by JokeyH

I just saw this kicker Justin Medlock, from UCLA on ESPN a little while ago.
This guy is awesome. The ball comes off his foot soo fast you just have to see it. The TV guys were talking about how his kicks never get blocked, because of how fast the ball is gone. They were doing a kicking skills comp. and he won by making EVERY kick in the contest.
I would have never said this before, but I would even think about a 3rd or a 4th round pick on this guy... Man all I can say is WOW!

I actually started a thread in the draft zone when this originally aired. Seemed most were inclined to bring back Grammitica over trying to draft a kid like Medlock. Crosby stunk up the joint. There was also another kid that wasn't too far behind Medlock that might be worth a look see. He was worth a look see. I think from VA or VT.

Hostile · 02-25-2007

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Originally Posted by Dayton_Cowboy

I actually started a thread in the draft zone when this originally aired. Seemed most were inclined to bring back Grammitica over trying to draft a kid like Medlock. Crosby stunk up the joint. There was also another kid that wasn't too far behind Medlock that might be worth a look see. He was worth a look see. I think from VA or VT.

Vaughn from Auburn.

SacredStar · 02-25-2007

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Originally Posted by ThreeSportStar80

Just out of curiousity, what round did New England take Gostkowski out of Memphis?

Stephen Gostkowski was drafted in the fourth round (118th overall)

Dayton Cowboy · 02-25-2007

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Originally Posted by Hostile

Vaughn from Auburn.

thanks Hos..

Vaughn didn't look too bad in that skills competition. Medlock though did seem to be the guy if I were looking for a kicker. I was thoroughly unimpressed with Crosby. Maybe he was just having a really bad day?

Deputy493 · 02-25-2007

Crosby is the best, he did it over an entire career at Colorado and because of a sub par day, you all now think he suks? Way to knee jerk.

Hostile · 02-25-2007

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Originally Posted by Deputy493

Crosby is the best, he did it over an entire career at Colorado and because of a sub par day, you all now think he suks? Way to knee jerk.

Read my post above about him getting outshined at the Senior Bowl.

One day huh? Re-check the math.

the kid 05 · 02-25-2007

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Originally Posted by Hostile

Read my post above about him getting outshined at the Senior Bowl.

One day huh? Re-check the math.

i thought you hated kickers?

Hostile · 02-26-2007

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Originally Posted by the kid 05

i thought you hated kickers?

I do. I don't want us to draft any of them. I just happen to think Nick Folk of Arizona is the best of the bunch. If we sign him as a UDFA it will be a good move. He's a weapon on kickoffs, FGs, and even Punting. If we can't re-sign McBriar he can fulfill all 3 duties. Name me one other Kicker who could do that?

Note...I am sure we will re-sign McBriar and I won't be surprised if he turns out to be our kickoff guy as well as Punter in 2007.

the kid 05 · 02-26-2007

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Originally Posted by Hostile

I do. I don't want us to draft any of them. I just happen to think Nick Folk of Arizona is the best of the bunch. If we sign him as a UDFA it will be a good move. He's a weapon on kickoffs, FGs, and even Punting. If we can't re-sign McBriar he can fulfill all 3 duties. Name me one other Kicker who could do that?

Note...I am sure we will re-sign McBriar and I won't be surprised if he turns out to be our kickoff guy as well as Punter in 2007.

i thought he couldn't kick off because in OZ they don't use Tee's or is that the reason he can't do FG is because they use tees...everything is backwards in OZ

Deputy493 · 02-26-2007

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Originally Posted by Hostile

Read my post above about him getting outshined at the Senior Bowl.

One day huh? Re-check the math.

Senior Bowl > Entire Career at CU?

Sounds like fuzzy math hostile.

Or knee-jerk math.

Hostile · 02-26-2007

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Originally Posted by Deputy493

Senior Bowl > Entire Career at CU?

Sounds like fuzzy math hostile.

Or knee-jerk math.

You said one TV competition was all the evidence. It isn't. He was also out kicked at the Senior Bowl.

One thing to remember about his "entire career at CU." He kicked at elevation in Colorado. The thinner air makes the ball travel farther.

I take nothing away from him. Kid's a good kicker. I just don't think he's the best kicker available.

Hostile · 02-26-2007

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Originally Posted by the kid 05

i thought he couldn't kick off because in OZ they don't use Tee's or is that the reason he can't do FG is because they use tees...everything is backwards in OZ

He's supposedly going to work out to learn how to do that this off season.

Star4Ever · 02-26-2007

While the thought of actually drafting a kicker seems so wrong, I have to admit that picking a good one with a 6th or 7th round pick wouldn't exactly be stupid. We've got several late round picks and really, how often to 6th or 7th round picks at other positions pan out? It is certainly worth considering when you think about the problems we've had with kickers. A good, young, dependable kicker certainly would be a nice change.