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WR Workout Numbers
Combine Workouts: The Wide Outs
By TFY Draft Preview
Posted Feb 25, 2007
Several outstanding workouts were turned in today by many of the forty-nine wide outs on hand at the Senior Bowl. Here's a breakdown of what happened with hand-times for both forties.
[FONT=Verdana] Aundrae Allison/East Carolina: Caught the ball well making several tough over the shoulder grabs yet did not do a good job running routes as he tended to round his breaks.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana] David Ball/New Hampshire: Inconsistent in the early going then turned it on at the end and caught everything in site. Was very slow out of his breaks.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana] Reggie Ball/Georgia Tech: Improved as the session proceeded but dropped a lot of passes early on and practiced as slow as he ran.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana] Dwayne Bowe/LSU: Displayed very sure and strong hands. Extended to make the reception away from his frame, offering the passer a great target and was very natural catching the ball. Consistently snatched the pass from the air. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana] Steve Breaston/Michigan: Capitalized on a terrific running workout by catching the ball well. Moved into the first day.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana] Aaron Fairooz/Central Arkansas: Ran very slow in practice. Seemed all over the place and struggled to make the catch downfield at full speed.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana] Yamon Figures/Kansas State: Quietly had one of the better performances. Ran fast, ran terrific routes and at one point was out running the throws from many of the quarterbacks. Easily made the deep reception at full speed.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana] Joel Filani/Texas Tech: Overall did a nice job. Caught the deep pass well and ran solid routes.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana] Anthony Gonzalez/Ohio State: Tremendous workout. After some fast forties Gonzalez settled down and caught everything thrown in his direction. Running very sharp routes he made some tremendous receptions. At one point he was cutting the line of receiver to take extra reps with the passers.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana] Jason Hill/Washington State: After shocking everyone with super fast times in the forty, Hill caught the ball well. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana] James Jones/San Jose State: Generally seemed very aware and did a good job consistently making the reception away from his frame.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana] Mike Mason/Tennessee State: Practiced as fast as he ran his forties. Showed some sharpness running routes but did not display soft hands.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana] Syvelle Newton/South Carolina: For a player that has switched to numerous positions, Newton looked very natural catching the ball. He caught the deep pass well and consistently made the reception away from his frame. His route running needs a lot of work.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana] Sidney Rice/South Carolina: Ran hard and practiced fast. Caught the ball cleanly snatching the ball from the air. Did not display a second gear on the deep receptions.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana] Laurent Robinson/Illinois State: Practiced fast showing good hands. Offers the quarterback a nice target and adjusted well to the pass.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana] Ryne Robinson/Miami-Oh: Practiced faster then he timed in the forty. Ran some very sharp routes. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana] Steve Smith/USC: When all is said and done, Smith probably helped himself more than any other receiver. He ran good routes, showed hands of glue and practiced as fast as he ran during the forty.[/FONT]
Bold -Projected 1st round or 4.3 forty time
Name School HT WT 40-1 40-2
Dwayne Bowe LSU DNR DNR
[FONT=Arial]Yamon Figurs[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Kansas State[/FONT][FONT=Arial]5112[/FONT][FONT=Arial]174[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.29[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.28[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Name[/FONT][FONT=Arial]School[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Ht[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Wt[/FONT][FONT=Arial]40-1[/FONT][FONT=Arial]40-2[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Aundrae Allison[/FONT][FONT=Arial]East Carolina[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6008[/FONT][FONT=Arial]192[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.44[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.41[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Dallas Baker[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Florida[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6031[/FONT][FONT=Arial]208[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.69[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.62[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Reggie Ball[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Georgia Tech[/FONT][FONT=Arial]5105[/FONT][FONT=Arial]203[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.80[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.68[/FONT][FONT=Arial]David Ball[/FONT][FONT=Arial]New Hampshire[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6007[/FONT][FONT=Arial]196[/FONT][FONT=Arial]DNR[/FONT][FONT=Arial]DNR[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Dwayne Bowe[/FONT][FONT=Arial]LSU[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6022[/FONT][FONT=Arial]221[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.54[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.46[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Steve Breaston[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Michigan[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6003[/FONT][FONT=Arial]193[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.44[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.43[/FONT][FONT=Arial]David Clowney[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Virginia Tech[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6002[/FONT][FONT=Arial]188[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.38[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.37[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Jemalle Cornelius[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Florida[/FONT][FONT=Arial]5106[/FONT][FONT=Arial]184[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.50[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.54[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Chris Davis[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Florida State[/FONT][FONT=Arial]5102[/FONT][FONT=Arial]181[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.53[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.50[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Craig Davis[/FONT][FONT=Arial]LSU[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6013[/FONT][FONT=Arial]207[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.44[/FONT][FONT=Arial]INJ[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Aaron Fairooz[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Central Arkansas[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6056[/FONT][FONT=Arial]209[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.56[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.53[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Yamon Figurs[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Kansas State[/FONT][FONT=Arial]5112[/FONT][FONT=Arial]174[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.29[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.28[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Joel Filani[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Texas Tech[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6021[/FONT][FONT=Arial]211[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.50[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.54[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Ted Ginn Jr.[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Ohio State[/FONT][FONT=Arial]5112[/FONT][FONT=Arial]178[/FONT][FONT=Arial]DNR[/FONT][FONT=Arial]DNR[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Anthony Gonzalez[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Ohio State[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6000[/FONT][FONT=Arial]193[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.33[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.38[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Jarrett Hicks[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Texas Tech[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6027[/FONT][FONT=Arial]210[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.66[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.65[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Johnnie Lee Higgins[/FONT][FONT=Arial]UTEP[/FONT][FONT=Arial]5113[/FONT][FONT=Arial]186[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.48[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.47[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Jason Hill[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Washington State[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6004[/FONT][FONT=Arial]204[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.40[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.37[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Jonathan Holland[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Louisiana Tech[/FONT][FONT=Arial]5116[/FONT][FONT=Arial]191[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.36[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.40[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Drisan James[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Boise State[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6000[/FONT][FONT=Arial]193[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.54[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.45[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Dwayne Jarrett[/FONT][FONT=Arial]USC[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6040[/FONT][FONT=Arial]219[/FONT][FONT=Arial]DNR[/FONT][FONT=Arial]DNR[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Calvin Johnson[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Georgia Tech[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6050[/FONT][FONT=Arial]239[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.45[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.35[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Jacoby Jones[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Lane[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6025[/FONT][FONT=Arial]210[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.50[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.47[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Onrea Jones[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Hampton[/FONT][FONT=Arial]5111[/FONT][FONT=Arial]202[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.56[/FONT][FONT=Arial]-[/FONT][FONT=Arial]James Jones[/FONT][FONT=Arial]San Jose State[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6006[/FONT][FONT=Arial]207[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.55[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.53[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Jordan Kent[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Oregon[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6041[/FONT][FONT=Arial]221[/FONT][FONT=Arial]INJ[/FONT][FONT=Arial]INJ[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Mike Mason[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Tennessee State[/FONT][FONT=Arial]5115[/FONT][FONT=Arial]190[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.33[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.36[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Marquay McDaniel[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Hampton[/FONT][FONT=Arial]5105[/FONT][FONT=Arial]205[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.47[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.43[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Rhema McKnight[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Notre Dame[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6012[/FONT][FONT=Arial]211[/FONT][FONT=Arial]DNR[/FONT][FONT=Arial]DNR[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Robert Meachem[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Tennessee[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6020[/FONT][FONT=Arial]214[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.42[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.45[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Ryan Moore[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Miami-Fl[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6022[/FONT][FONT=Arial]217[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.58[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.57[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Legedu Naanee[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Boise State[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6022[/FONT][FONT=Arial]225[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.45[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.47[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Syvelle Newton[/FONT][FONT=Arial]South Carolina[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6006[/FONT][FONT=Arial]218[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.59[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.65[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Jerard Rabb[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Boise State[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6023[/FONT][FONT=Arial]201[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.59[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.59[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Sidney Rice[/FONT][FONT=Arial]South Carolina[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6034[/FONT][FONT=Arial]200[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.41[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.50[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Ryne Robinson[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Miami-Oh[/FONT][FONT=Arial]5091[/FONT][FONT=Arial]179[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.53[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.53[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Laurent Robinson[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Illinois State[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6020[/FONT][FONT=Arial]199[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.34[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.41[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Steve Smith[/FONT][FONT=Arial]USC[/FONT][FONT=Arial]5116[/FONT][FONT=Arial]197[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.37[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.41[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Syndric Steptoe[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Arizona[/FONT][FONT=Arial]5085[/FONT][FONT=Arial]194[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.57[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.56[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Chansi Stuckey[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Clemson[/FONT][FONT=Arial]5105[/FONT][FONT=Arial]197[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.65[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.62[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Jayson Swain[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Tennessee[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6003[/FONT][FONT=Arial]212[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.66[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.68[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Courtney Taylor[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Auburn[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6016[/FONT][FONT=Arial]204[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.53[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.47[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Matt Trannon[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Michigan State[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6060[/FONT][FONT=Arial]216[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.57[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.56[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Mike Walker[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Central Florida[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6016[/FONT][FONT=Arial]209[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.45[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.51[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Chandler Williams[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Florida International[/FONT][FONT=Arial]5106[/FONT][FONT=Arial]184[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.50[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.47[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Paul Williams[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Fresno State[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6012[/FONT][FONT=Arial]205[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.53[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.53[/FONT][FONT=Arial]D'Juan Woods[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Oklahoma State[/FONT][FONT=Arial]6004[/FONT][FONT=Arial]208[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.61[/FONT][FONT=Arial]4.66[/FONT]
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http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=112&p=2&c=621845
Last edited by sjordan6 : 02-25-2007 at 10:04 PM.
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Laurent Robinson and Jacoby Jones really helped themselves. Both might go in the 3rd round with their size/speed combination IMO.
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So Joel Filani ran a 4.5?
Uh oh, Silverbear.
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02-25-2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InmanRoshi
So Joel Filani ran a 4.5?
Uh oh, Silverbear.
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Why "uh oh", IR?? Did ANYBODY in here predict that he'd run a 4.54??
And did I not say that IF he ran a good time at the combine, I'd move him up my charts?? Which is no more than I'd do for ANY prospect who a) had a productive college career, and b) proved in his offseason workouts that he was faster than he was generally credited with being, fast enough for the NFL...
I did the same with Jason Hill, after he ran MUCH faster than I'd expected at the combine...
You act like I didn't WANT Filani to be successful, which is of course pretty ridiculous... I merely pointed out that the 40 times he was credited with were too slow to be successful in the NFL...
But with today's workout, Joel has helped himself a lot, perhaps moved himself up as high as the 4th round (though I'd still say 5th round would be more like it)... good for him...
Smarter than the av-er-age bear...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silverbear
Why "uh oh", IR?? Did ANYBODY in here predict that he'd run a 4.54??
And did I not say that IF he ran a good time at the combine, I'd move him up my charts?? Which is no more than I'd do for ANY prospect who a) had a productive college career, and b) proved in his offseason workouts that he was faster than he was generally credited with being, fast enough for the NFL...
I did the same with Jason Hill, after he ran MUCH faster than I'd expected at the combine...
You act like I didn't WANT Filani to be successful, which is of course pretty ridiculous... I merely pointed out that the 40 times he was credited with were too slow to be successful in the NFL...
But with today's workout, Joel has helped himself a lot, perhaps moved himself up as high as the 4th round (though I'd still say 5th round would be more like it)... good for him...
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Defensive much?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DBoys
Defensive much?
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Naw, just settin' the record straight... when Filani's name came up a few weeks ago, I was critical of him, for only one reason-- his listed 40 time, which was between 4.65 and 4.7 depending on which boards you frequented...
I said at the time that I enjoyed Tech football, that prior to the season I had both Hicks and Filani on my draft board, until they were both credited with 40 times that are simply too slow to ever gain separation in the NFL... at the same time, some of my antagonists in that argument insisted he was faster than those 40 times, to which I said if he ran a faster time at the Combine, or at his Pro Day workout, I'd elevate his stock...
I mean, 4.54 is still quite mediocre speed for an NFL WR, but if he combines that with good route running ability and soft hands (which he does), then those numbers can make for a decent to good possession receiver...
If you'd been there for the entire argument, you might understand more my desire to respond when ol' IR playfully called me out... but he's somebody I like, and was not insulting in his calling me out, so I saw no need to be defensive...
And if you knew my posting style better, you'd know that I ALWAYS take the time to set the record straight in arguments like this... 
Smarter than the av-er-age bear...
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02-25-2007
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I can't think of a draft with some many quality prospects at the position...it's almost ridiculous!!
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02-25-2007
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Jacoby Jones, Craig Davis or Paul Williams are who I want Dallas to grab in the 3rd.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slick325
Jacoby Jones, Craig Davis or Paul Williams are who I want Dallas to grab in the 3rd.
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I thought Williams was supposed to be one of the faster WR's today, but a 4.53 time will really hurt his stock in April.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverstar
I thought Williams was supposed to be one of the faster WR's today, but a 4.53 time will really hurt his stock in April.
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You may be right. However, I think he has football speed though which is most important.
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02-26-2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverstar
Williams was supposedly one of the fastest WR's in this class, but a 4.53 time will really hurt his stock in April.
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Didn't see his 40 time before, that's not good news for him... he was supposed to be a 4.35 40 guy, not a 4.53... maybe the stopwatch went dyslexic during his run??
Seriously, he's gonna need to scorch the track at his Pro Day workout now, or watch himself possibly fall out of the first day altogether...
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I read that Paul Williams ran like a 4.41 in the 40 and thats not that bad
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Anthony Gonzalez/Ohio State: Tremendous workout. After some fast forties Gonzalez settled down and caught everything thrown in his direction. Running very sharp routes he made some tremendous receptions. At one point he was cutting the line of receiver to take extra reps with the passers.
IMO this is going to be the most productive WR out of this draft.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cboyd
I read that Paul Williams ran like a 4.41 in the 40 and thats not that bad
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Just found another source that listed him as running a 4.45 there... still not as fast as he was supposed to be, but quite acceptable for a big WR...
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02-26-2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InmanRoshi
So Joel Filani ran a 4.5?
Uh oh, Silverbear.
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I told you all he would run much faster than predicted.
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