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McCordsville Cowboy · 03-17-2007

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Originally Posted by wayne_motley

It's actually a smart move if you have a guy you really MUST have. It's not a question of Detroit taking the guy you want...the problem is that everyone knows Detroit will trade the pick for a good offer, and you don't want another team leap-frogging you and stealing the guy you want at the top of the draft, so you make the deal...then you're sitting there on draft day knowing you're going to get your man. Sitting pat at #3 could mean you lose the player you want and suddenly no one wants to move up to #3 and let you out of paying huge money to a guy you're not really excited about.

Perfect explanation on why Cleveland wants to make the move....

I think too much Romeo - Weiss connection to believe that Cleveland wants to trade up to secure Adrian Peterson.

Wrangler87 · 03-17-2007

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Originally Posted by Jake0

Yeah.... Cleveland is for sure going to take Adrian Peterson, absolutely no shot in hell he slips past 3, pretty safe bet to put your life on that one.

Yeah, after going out of their way to sign Jamal Lewis, they are going to spend even more money on another RB..........

Wrangler87 · 03-17-2007

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Originally Posted by dwmyers

I'm a bit confused. Who could Detroit nab that Cleveland couldn't live without? The top of this draft is rich in prospects.

It's fairly simple, if Cleveland trades with Detroit for their spot, it assures them that a team like Tampa cannot jump them at the last minute, and take Quinn. As fast as Quinn was reportedly falling in January, is just as fast as he is rising now after the workouts and interviews, and for good reason. The guy knows football with the best of them, and has all of the physical skills to go along with it. Also, a great personal attitude.

carphalen5150 · 03-17-2007

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Originally Posted by Wrangler87

It's fairly simple, if Cleveland trades with Detroit for their spot, it assures them that a team like Tampa cannot jump them at the last minute, and take Quinn. As fast as Quinn was reportedly falling in January, is just as fast as he is rising now after the workouts and interviews, and for good reason. The guy knows football with the best of them, and has all of the physical skills to go along with it.

Also...Miami could try and move up there as well.

Wrangler87 · 03-17-2007

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Originally Posted by McCordsville Cowboy

Perfect explanation on why Cleveland wants to make the move....

I think too much Romeo - Weiss connection to believe that Cleveland wants to trade up to secure Adrian Peterson.

They run basically the same offense. Quinn could step in from day one.

Avery · 03-17-2007

I don't really see the logic in the trade. Browns are in a great position to move down and still acquire someone.

I'm also not 100% convinced that Peterson is the pick; they are paying Lewis $5 mil a season.

**big dog cowboy** · 03-17-2007

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Originally Posted by philo beddoe

Good QBs can be found in the mid-rounds.................

Or you can get real lucky in free agency...........Romo.

AmishCowboy · 03-17-2007

It has to be for Brady Quinn or why else do it?.

CrazyCowboy · 03-17-2007

That seems like a lot to give up!

Tristan · 03-17-2007

I think the fact that Quinn is from Ohio and stated recently that it was his dream to play for the Browns helps a bit.

It only makes sense that they are trying to get Quinn. When it comes down to it, there are only two legetimate franchise QB's, and IMO a franchise QB should always go above any other position.

Take the Raiders for example, they have toiled in QB patheticness since Gannon, yet they have4 recently passed on Phillip Rivers, Ben Rothlisberger, Matt Leinart and Jay Cutler. Thus they remain the Raiders.

IMO, if you don't have a very good to great QB, you do whatever you can to get one and then build your team from there.

**jobberone** · 03-17-2007

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Originally Posted by Tristan

I think the fact that Quinn is from Ohio and stated recently that it was his dream to play for the Browns helps a bit.

It only makes sense that they are trying to get Quinn. When it comes down to it, there are only two legetimate franchise QB's, and IMO a franchise QB should always go above any other position.

Take the Raiders for example, they have toiled in QB patheticness since Gannon, yet they have4 recently passed on Phillip Rivers, Ben Rothlisberger, Matt Leinart and Jay Cutler. Thus they remain the Raiders.

IMO, if you don't have a very good to great QB, you do whatever you can to get one and then build your team from there.

Seems obvious to most but not to all...obviously.

I'm not certain the Raiders will take Russell but certainly even they are not that stupid.

Beast_from_East · 03-17-2007

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Originally Posted by wayne_motley

It's actually a smart move if you have a guy you really MUST have. It's not a question of Detroit taking the guy you want...the problem is that everyone knows Detroit will trade the pick for a good offer, and you don't want another team leap-frogging you and stealing the guy you want at the top of the draft, so you make the deal...then you're sitting there on draft day knowing you're going to get your man. Sitting pat at #3 could mean you lose the player you want and suddenly no one wants to move up to #3 and let you out of paying huge money to a guy you're not really excited about.

Thanks for the explanation, makes a little more sense now.

Still seems kinda high giving a 2nd to move up just 1 spot, but I guess they are scared Detroit is going to trade with somebody else.

AsthmaField · 03-17-2007

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Originally Posted by Beast_from_East

Still seems kinda high giving a 2nd to move up just 1 spot,

I know, but that's what it takes to move around in the rarified air that is the top of the NFL draft. That's what so many don't understand when they're saying move up to get a guy like CJ or A. Peterson... it takes a huge amount to get up near the top of round 1. I can't even imagine what it would take to go from #22 to say, #3. The amount we would have to give up would be staggering.

DallasEast · 03-17-2007

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Originally Posted by AsthmaField

I know, but that's what it takes to move around in the rarified air that is the top of the NFL draft. That's what so many don't understand when they're saying move up to get a guy like CJ or A. Peterson... it takes a huge amount to get up near the top of round 1. I can't even imagine what it would take to go from #22 to say, #3. The amount we would have to give up would be staggering.

Exactly why it was kinda unnerving to read where posters, who recently asserted that by simply packaging Romo, Julius Jones and/or a draft choice, a team holding a high draft choice would be remotely enticed in surrendering it to Dallas.

AsthmaField · 03-17-2007

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Originally Posted by DallasEast

Exactly why it was kinda unnerving to read where posters, who recently asserted that by simply packaging Romo, Julius Jones and/or a draft choice, a team holding a high draft choice would be remotely enticed in surrendering it to Dallas.

I know... you see it all the time. I suppose they don't understand the huge amount it takes to get up into the, say, top 5. Moving into the 12-18 range isn't nearly so bad, but still takes a pretty good bit. Problem there is that all the truly can't miss prospects like CJ are long gone by then, so you might as well take a guy at #22 because the odds are about the same there as getting one at around 12 or so. Still, if there is a player the coaches really like there at 12 and he won't be there at 22, then that's a lot more likely a trade to happen, and I wouldn't neccessarily disagree with that.