Flos replacement?... ND OT Ryan Harris

[fortdick]

Originally Posted by smarta5150

Have you ever heard of Tom Brady? 199th pick, 6th round.

So you are saying that McQ will be as good a LT as Brady is a QB? All I am saying is that I am not convinced that the guy will be the answer. Do I hope so? Yes. Would I refuse to pick a OT in the draft because he is there? No.

Can someone tell me, other than Parcells glowing praise for McQ, what makes everyone think he is the answer if Flo goes down? The guy was borderline practice squad material when he arrived. He was good enough in camp to make it a risk to put him on the PS, but that doesn't punch his ticket to Canton.

Just because the Pats got lucky with a 6th round pick doesn;t mean all 6th round picks are good. Would you be for trading our #22 for anyone else's 6th round pick?

[burmafrd]

Considering the number of teams that expressed interest in McQ, he has to be considered as at least starting talent at LT. For a late rd pick, that is pretty good!!

[fortdick]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

Considering the number of teams that expressed interest in McQ, he has to be considered as at least starting talent at LT. For a late rd pick, that is pretty good!!

I am not arguing that McQ doesn''t have potential. I am saying that that is all it is right now, potential.

We have gonethru many years of question marks at both left and right tackle. I hope McQ turns into a pro bowl player, but I would not hold my breath.

My orignal comment was that I agreed with another poster that OT was a position we should be concerned about in the coming draft. I don't feel we are set at OT, WR, or ILB. We need to look to improve at these, that is all.

Everyone harps about FS, but I think that losing Flo, or Ayodele, or Glenn/Ownes would be a bigger problem. We need to look for a replacemnt for Flo, and I am not convinced it is McQ.

[burmafrd]

You cannot stock up at all positions; there are just so many spots on the roster. And unless you want someone just like McQ, a late rd pick, then you have to draft on the first day. EVEN then you are not assured of getting someone better then McQ. The boys have had him for full year; they know better then anyone else what they have.

[Bob Sacamano]

Originally Posted by fortdick

I am not arguing that McQ doesn''t have potential. I am saying that that is all it is right now, potential.

aren't rookies just potential too?

[smarta5150]

Originally Posted by fortdick

So you are saying that McQ will be as good a LT as Brady is a QB? All I am saying is that I am not convinced that the guy will be the answer. Do I hope so? Yes. Would I refuse to pick a OT in the draft because he is there? No.

Can someone tell me, other than Parcells glowing praise for McQ, what makes everyone think he is the answer if Flo goes down? The guy was borderline practice squad material when he arrived. He was good enough in camp to make it a risk to put him on the PS, but that doesn't punch his ticket to Canton.

Just because the Pats got lucky with a 6th round pick doesn;t mean all 6th round picks are good. Would you be for trading our #22 for anyone else's 6th round pick?

What I am saying is what round you are drafted does not limit your talents or potential for one day being a game day starter.

I love how people wanna replace unproven players with OTHER unproven players.

Its sick how quickly some of you want to make changes.

There is this thing called development, you may have heard of it.

Not every player can come into the league a dominate it... it could take years to strengthen themselves, practice the skills, and learn the systems.

Give these guys (McQ, Watkins, JJ, our DLine, etc.) some time.

[Bob Sacamano]

Originally Posted by smarta5150

I love how people wanna replace unproven players with OTHER unproven players.

I don't get it either

but at least it beats replacing someone w/ some random, unnamed person

[stasheroo]

Considering the losuy job the Cowboys have done 'speculating' with regard to the offensive line, I think they're due for a 'slam dunk' prospect.

The mistakes they've made recently have proved very costly.

For every Jacob Rogers, they have to pay big money for a Marc Colombo to man that spot.

For every Stephen Peterman, they have to pay big money for Leonard Davis to man that spot.

For every Al Johnson, they have to pay big money for Andre Gurode to man that spot.

I would like to see a high draft pick invested in a more reliable prospect than waiting for someone to develop.

It still bothers me that this team could have drafted Marcus McNeil last year and had a tackle position set for the next 10 years. Instead they drafted a backup TE who had a minimal impact.

[Bob Sacamano]

Originally Posted by stasheroo

For every Jacob Rogers, they have to pay big money for a Marc Colombo to man that spot.

Columbo doesn't cost us much at all

Originally Posted by stash

I would like to see a high draft pick invested in a more reliable prospect than waiting for someone to develop.

me too, I would like to see the Cowboys develop Pat McQuistan, Joe Berger, Corey Proctor

and I agree, we're due

[Rack Bauer]

Originally Posted by fortdick

He was good enough in camp to make it a risk to put him on the PS, but that doesn't punch his ticket to Canton.

Hey, BP Wannabe, who said anything about Canton? Are you expecting a HOF out of this replacement you suggest we draft? If so, I hope you're prepared for disappointment.

Originally Posted by fortdick

I am not arguing that McQ doesn''t have potential. I am saying that that is all it is right now, potential.

Just potential, huh? And what would an OT we draft in the top three rounds of the draft be? Oh right... that would be potential. So if we already have that OT with potential on the roster, why not - Oh I dunno - see if THAT guy's potential leads to production?

You don't develop a guy for one freakin' season then give up on him. You end up being the raiders or cardinals when you do that.

Originally Posted by Bob Sacamano

aren't rookies just potential too?

Originally Posted by smarta5150

What I am saying is what round you are drafted does not limit your talents or potential for one day being a game day starter.

I love how people wanna replace unproven players with OTHER unproven players.

Its sick how quickly some of you want to make changes.

There is this thing called development, you may have heard of it.

Not every player can come into the league a dominate it... it could take years to strengthen themselves, practice the skills, and learn the systems.

Give these guys (McQ, Watkins, JJ, our DLine, etc.) some time.

except for the JJ part. He's been around 3 years so he doesn't really fit the description of someone that needs development. Not to mention RB is the position in football that requires the LEAST amount of development (as far as running the football goes).

[montgod]

Originally Posted by ENGCowboy

Anybody else think that this guy could be Joe Juresaks(sorry about the spelling) new pet project this year as Flos replacement. A year with Joe working with him and adding 15-20 pounds of pure muscle with Sparano working on technique this could be our future LT for years. I personally dont have that much faith in McQuistan I know a lot of you do but I feel we need to replace Flo next year and Im not sure he could do that. This guy could be an anchor at LT longterm and the only knocks on him are down to size, although some question his aggression. Me i think the guy who protected the most pro-like QB, in the most pro-like system in college could be a fantastic pick inj the 2nd.Thoughts?


Ryan Harris OT 6'5 292 Notre Dame

[View Full Quote]Ryan Harris made an early impact as a freshman in 2003. He started the final eight games at right tackle, then moved to the left side as a sophomore. He has not left that spot since. Harris was featured on an MTV reality show, “True Life” as a teenager, talking about his ability to pack on and maintain his weight.

From an athletic standpoint, Harris has it all. He is a very good natural athlete, with the agility to move laterally with ease, and adjust very quickly to the defenders movements. With his natural talent and experience, he has developed into an excellent pass protector. Playing for Notre Dame, he has the attitude all of their lineman seem to possess, and that is to fight until the whistle blows.
While he has all the athletic talent, Harris still needs to become stronger and add more weight to his frame. He is very lean for an offensive lineman, and it could give him problems over a 16 game schedule. He also needs to get stronger because he can be beaten by the bull rush, and stronger defensive lineman. If Ryan Harris can pack on more weight and get stronger, he could become a prime draft pick. As it stands now, he has real concerns about his ability to control players at the point of attack, and that is a big question for an offensive lineman.

Not sure I would want an OT who just had back surgery a year ago. We all know the Boys issues w/Olineman with back issues.

[burmafrd]

Gurode did not cost us that much. Davis did. Colombo was cheap. So actually we did pretty good from that point of view. All 3 should be good for 5 years at least. Which in todays NFL is a lifetime.