latest risers/fallers

[joseephuss]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

Wow! Again, I don't agree with a lot of this. The injury concerns are valid IMO. I think this is a lagit concern. He has missed games but then again, so has Gonzales. He is thin but he has terrific height for the position and it's not as if he checks in at 175. He scales at 200 lbs now. I don't know about the rest but to me, a cocky WR is probably a good thing. I don't know one WR worth there salt that is not that way. Does he have reason to be cocky? Well, he plays in the SEC, which is one of the top two or three conferences in the country. The toughest for my money. In two seasons he has produced the following.

2005 70 REC. 1143 Yds. 16.3 YPC and 13 TDs. 11 games played
2006 72 REC. 1090 yds. 15.1 YPC and 10 TDs. 13 games played.

All this in the SEC, as a Soph. I'd say he has cause.

If you compare Gonzales to Rice, for his entire career, he only has 87 REC. 1286 Yds. 14.4 YPC and 13 TDs.

[View Full Quote]I mean, I guess I just don't understand how you can say that a guy like Gonzales represents a more secure pick based on production.

My concern with Rice is that he played for Steve Spurrier. He is not known for developing high level NFL receivers. Some of the great college receivers that played for Spurrier turned out to be good NFL players, but nothing more and most are just average. It is not my biggest concern, but it does factor into the equation.

[dbair1967]

Originally Posted by joseephuss

My concern with Rice is that he played for Steve Spurrier. He is not known for developing high level NFL receivers. Some of the great college receivers that played for Spurrier turned out to be good NFL players, but nothing more and most are just average. It is not my biggest concern, but it does factor into the equation.

unlike at Florida, SC had nothing...and their QB play has been mediocre at best

Rice WAS their offense...everyone knew he was getting the ball and still couldnt stop him, and he did this against outstanding SEC talent

also, Spurrier was extremely disappointed Rice didnt return, and it wasnt because he thought Rice wasnt ready for the NFL...its because he knew he had a special player

like I said earlier, I'd be thrilled if we got him

David

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by joseephuss

My concern with Rice is that he played for Steve Spurrier. He is not known for developing high level NFL receivers. Some of the great college receivers that played for Spurrier turned out to be good NFL players, but nothing more and most are just average. It is not my biggest concern, but it does factor into the equation.

Valid. I am not as concerned with this simply because I don't see the multiple receivers with comperable numbers in SCs offense this year or last. Last year you had Rice with over a thousand and then you had Newton with 297. This year you had McKinley with 880 yards, which is respectable, but the next guy has only 406. To me, it's not a system the produced Rice's numbers, per say. However, I can see where this is certainly debatable.

[ZeroClub]

Originally Posted by hendog

It says MBush may not be drafted. I'd sure spend one of my 7th rders on him and give him a year ala Colombo.

Me too.

I can't imagine that he won't be drafted (unless it is somehow medically probable that he won't ever fully recover ....).

Even if he's a year away from playing, he's gotta be worth a 6th round choice. Maybe a 5th.