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[theogt]

Originally Posted by Haley94

Not only Skyler, but Spears and Peterman were from LSU. I'm LSU scared as well.

I'm sure the Colts were thinking the same thing when they drafted Addai. How'd that work out?

[PlayMaker88]

I'll throw a brick through the TV if the boys pick Bowe. Rice is 10 times the reciever..That said, no way I would pass on Nelson or Branch.

[Hoofbite]

Originally Posted by firehawk350

No way he falls that far...

hopefully no further then 22. realistically, probably won't make it out of the top 10

[SultanOfSix]

Originally Posted by superpunk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSvWf9-EN_g

This is Dwayne Bowe...great catch and run against Fresno State in there.

He looks good. I don't know how he compares as far as speed is concerned, but he reminds me a lot of TO and the way he runs.

Seems like a very good route runner.

[Haley94]

Originally Posted by theogt

I'm sure the Colts were thinking the same thing when they drafted Addai. How'd that work out?

I'm referring to the Cowboy's karma with LSU players. LeFleur comes to mind as well.

[theogt]

Originally Posted by PlayMaker88

I'll throw a brick through the TV if the boys pick Bowe. Rice is 10 times the reciever..That said, no way I would pass on Nelson or Branch.

In what respect?

Dwayne Bowe
Height: 6022
Weight: 221
40 Yrd Dash: 4.40*
20 Yrd Dash: 2.52*
10 Yrd Dash: 1.52*
Vertical Jump: 33
Broad Jump: 10'5"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.35
3-Cone Drill: 6.81
College Stats: 154 catches, 2403 yards, 26 TDs

*Pro Day results

Sidney Rice
Height: 6034
Weight: 200
40 Yrd Dash: 4.51
20 Yrd Dash: 2.59
10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
Vertical Jump: 39 1/2
Broad Jump: 9'11"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.34
3-Cone Drill: 7.09
College Stats: 142 Catches, 2233 Yards, 23 TDs

[THUMPER]

If Dwayne Jarrett is there at #22 then I take him regardless of who else is available. He is the best WR in the draft after Johnson IMO. I hope other teams underrate him and take Ginn and others ahead of him, leaving Jarrett for us.

Romo is not a mad bomber type of passer (ala DelHomme or Favre) and could really use a steady player who will get open and make the catch. Jarrett will also make the clutch catch unlike one of our starting WRs whose name isn't Terry Glenn. He is a big target and has excellent hands and the ability to go up and get high passes.

The last thing we need at #22 is a guy better known for his return skills than for his receiving ability: Ginn. You pick up return guys on Day-2 not in the 1st round (remember Desmond Howard?). Ginn's production is nowhere near what Jarrett has done.

[LowTech]

Originally Posted by THUMPER

If Dwayne Jarrett is there at #22 then I take him regardless of who else is available. He is the best WR in the draft after Johnson IMO. I hope other teams underrate him and take Ginn and others ahead of him, leaving Jarrett for us.

Romo is not a mad bomber type of passer (ala DelHomme or Favre) and could really use a steady player who will get open and make the catch. Jarrett will also make the clutch catch unlike one of our starting WRs whose name isn't Terry Glenn. He is a big target and has excellent hands and the ability to go up and get high passes.

The last thing we need at #22 is a guy better known for his return skills than for his receiving ability: Ginn. You pick up return guys on Day-2 not in the 1st round (remember Desmond Howard?). Ginn's production is nowhere near what Jarrett has done.

I was watching a youtube link someone put on here of Ginn and as I was watching I noticed the highlight reel was 90% returns and 10% receiving. If we get a WR in Rd 1, we need that highlight reel the other way around.

And yes, Ginn appears to be an excellent KR.

[CalCBFan]

LowTech, et. al.: As badly as Jerry has done in the past, there is NO WAY even he would take a KR w/ his 1st pick, unless that pick was also in the 4th or 5th rnd!

And I had forgotten how many LSU players we've taken the past 10 years, none of whom have turned out to be much. As a matter-of-fact, Addai is the only one I can think of that has accomplished anything. Has Troy Edwards been that successfull?...

[Pabst]

I'd like Meachem over Bowe, but I wouldn't complain.

I dunno. He has great speed, yet I don't see him get elite seperation very often. It's not like he had a weak-armed QB throwing to him either.

He has very good hands and great body control; you could tell that many of the passes that were thrown to him were off-target. But something just makes me uneasy about him.

[CrazyCowboy]

I sure hope we do better then this lame pick.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by CrazyCowboy

I sure hope we do better then this lame pick.

Are you calling Bowe a "lame pick?"

[tyke1doe]

Originally Posted by LowTech

I was watching a youtube link someone put on here of Ginn and as I was watching I noticed the highlight reel was 90% returns and 10% receiving. If we get a WR in Rd 1, we need that highlight reel the other way around.

And yes, Ginn appears to be an excellent KR.

So are you saying that Santonio Holmes was worthy of a first round pick but Devin Hester wasn't despite the fact that Devin Hester in his first year outperformed first-round pick Holmes on returns alone? We're not even taking into account what he might do as a corner down the road.

Are you saying that Mike Williams, Mark Clayton and Roddy White were worthy of a first round pick but Devin Hester wasn't despite the fact that Devin Hester in his first year outperformed those first-round pick on returns alone?

Of course, we're speculating that sitting a year behind TO and Glenn won't help Ginn. But since we're speculating, let me indulge.

If Ginn produced the same impact Devin Hester did in his first year, heck yes you take him in the first round, even if he doesn't develop into a minimum average receiver until two years later.

This idea that you can't take a special teams player in the first round - considering all the busts in the first round - is ridiculous.

The name of the game is winning and having an impact on the game.

If Ginn can match what Hester did (doubtful but he has that kind of talent) and if he can give the Cowboys field position close to the 50, I don't care if he only fields kicks for the first year, you take him no questions ask.

That type of field position is invaluable.

And I doubt Bowe, Jarrett or Meachem, for that matter, are going to have a major impact the first year even if the Cowboys draft them. They're not going to be return men. So they too will simply learn behind Glenn and TO - assuming neither gets hurt.

So what do we have:

Bowe, Jarrett and Meachem = learning behind TO and Glenn a year and no impact in the special teams game vs. Ginn = learning behind TO and Glenn a year, putting on pounds in the team's weight program and returning kicks.

And add in the fact that Ginn has the greater upside and I think it's pretty clear who you take.

Ginn has the chance to be something special based on his speed. Giving him a chance to sit and learn the game while playing special teams works to his advantage and the teams.

Meanwhile, what is the upside for Bowe (TO), Jarrett (Keyshawn) and Meachem (Carl Pickens)?

Unless you're missing out on a Jerry Rice, WR is the place where you can roll the dice and take a chance. And I'd rather take a chance on the guy with the greater upside.

[SultanOfSix]

Originally Posted by tyke1doe

Meanwhile, what is the upside for Bowe (TO)...

Maybe it's just me, but how can an upside such as this (without the character issues) actually be considered a negative?

[tyke1doe]

Originally Posted by theogt

In what respect?

Dwayne Bowe
Height: 6022
Weight: 221
40 Yrd Dash: 4.40*
20 Yrd Dash: 2.52*
10 Yrd Dash: 1.52*
Vertical Jump: 33
Broad Jump: 10'5"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.35
3-Cone Drill: 6.81
College Stats: 154 catches, 2403 yards, 26 TDs

*Pro Day results

Sidney Rice
Height: 6034
Weight: 200
40 Yrd Dash: 4.51
20 Yrd Dash: 2.59
10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
Vertical Jump: 39 1/2
Broad Jump: 9'11"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.34
3-Cone Drill: 7.09
College Stats: 142 Catches, 2233 Yards, 23 TDs

Did Bowe not participate in the Combines?
Were all these stats taken from the Combines?

It appears you inserted the best times for Bowe from one outing and the other numbers were from other outings. If that's the case, then that's very misleading.

I'm not a Rice homer in any way, but that stood out to me. Also, I think you might want to compensate in your comparison with the college stats since Bowe was catching passes from a guy who is suppose to be the No. 1 pick and best QB in the draft versus the guy throwing them to Rice.