Are The Cowboys Super Bowl Contenders?

[DallasCowpoke]

Originally Posted by Hostile

In April there are 31 contenders.

There, FIXED it for you.

[firehawk350]

Originally Posted by stasheroo

Cooley?!?!?

Pfft.

Please.

And by the way, Colombo signed a two year deal, not one.

San Fran's secondary?!?!?

Another gem.

Why not tell us that Sean Taylor can actually cover me while you're at it!

Okay, sorry, I didn't know Colombo signed a two year, I thought it was one. And please, elaborate, why is Cooley worse then Witten? San Fran's top three CBs (I didn't say secondary) ARE better then yours. Nate Clements > Newman and Walt Harris is WAY better then Glenn.

[firehawk350]

Originally Posted by Hostile

It would require me to explain football to you, so I will pass as I think it would be an exercise in futility.

Wow, way to come back with, you know, facts or something resembling a bit of knowledge. Good job Hos!

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by firehawk350

Wow, way to come back with, you know, facts or something resembling a bit of knowledge. Good job Hos!

I aim to please.



I'm sorry, but if you think there is an NFL team anywhere that would take Cooley over Witten you're simply deluded. I like the kid, but man, be serious.

[WoodysGirl]

Originally Posted by firehawk350

Okay, sorry, I didn't know Colombo signed a two year, I thought it was one. And please, elaborate, why is Cooley worse then Witten? San Fran's top three CBs (I didn't say secondary) ARE better then yours. Nate Clements > Newman and Walt Harris is WAY better then Glenn.

Clements and Newman are debatable. Henry is the 2nd corner, not Glenn.

But if you would be so kind, why are Clements, Harris, and the unnamed 3rd corner better than the 'boys trio?

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

Clements and Newman are debatable. Henry is the 2nd corner, not Glenn.

But if you would be so kind, why are Clements, Harris, and the unnamed 3rd corner better than the 'boys trio?

Because those guys aren't Cowboys and our trio are.

[firehawk350]

Originally Posted by Hostile

I aim to please.



I'm sorry, but if you think there is an NFL team anywhere that would take Cooley over Witten you're simply deluded. I like the kid, but man, be serious.

You aim to please me??? Wow, full service... Thanks

Okay, again, I ask, why do you think that? I mean, unless you know that for a fact (as in, you personally talked to every GM), tell me why.

[WoodysGirl]

Originally Posted by Hostile

Because those guys aren't Cowboys and our trio are.

And maybe he likes the fact that San Fran has red (similar to burgundy) in their uniforms colors.

[superpunk]

Originally Posted by firehawk350

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[burmafrd]

Career 252 2838 11.3 42 14 Witten
Career 314 3609 11.5 59 24 Shockey
Career 165 1822 11.0 66 19 Cooley

Pretty much even at that look. Then you look closer
G C YD AV L TD FD
2004 WAS 16 37 314 8.5 31 6 23 Cooley
2005 WAS 16 71 774 10.9 32 7 44
2006 WAS 16 57 734 12.9 66 6 33


2002 NYG 15 74 894 12.1 30 2 49 Shockey
2003 NYG 9 48 535 11.1 46 2 29
2004 NYG 15 61 666 10.9 38 6 32
2005 NYG 15 65 891 13.7 59 7 46
2006 NYG 15 66 623 9.4 25 7 37


2003 DAL 15 35 347 9.9 36 1 18 Witten
2004 DAL 16 87 980 11.3 42 6 44
2005 DAL 16 66 757 11.5 34 6 40
2006 DAL 16 64 754 11.8 42 1 37


And you see how remarkably steady Wittens production has been over the last 3 years.

[GimmeTheBall!]

Originally Posted by philo beddoe

Or are we pretenders? I think this is a pretty good team, with some holes to fill still. I honestly can't see us making a run at the Super Bowl trophy. I can see us making the playoffs and winning a playoff game, but that's about it. We seem to lack a certain necessary something I can't put my finger on. Leadership perhaps? Anyway, you never know how the ball will bounce so we'll have to wait & see. Winning builds confidence and that will be key for this year's team. A great draft is needed and Romo needs to continue to grow. In today's NFL, of course, anything can happen. Are we ready to take on the Colts and Patriots of this league THIS year? Thoughts?

If the weak sisters New Orleans Saints can become Super Bowl contenders last year, I certainly think the Cowboys can take that step this year.
If the wheels had not come off of the Boys defense last year, we would have gone deep into the playoffs.

Yes, the Cowboys are SB contenders.
The Bears, like the Seattle Seasucks last year, will falter badly in the regular season this coming year and the Saints will become their old selves again.

Look for the Cowboys and Bears to battle it out in the NFC championship and the Cowboys to match up against the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

( in 2007)

[firehawk350]

Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

Clements and Newman are debatable. Henry is the 2nd corner, not Glenn.

But if you would be so kind, why are Clements, Harris, and the unnamed 3rd corner better than the 'boys trio?

Clements is better. 16 passes defensed, 3 INTs and 1 TD. Newman; 11 passes defensed, 1 INT and 0 TDs. So in what way is Newman better?
Harris is the number three corner, so I was comparing #3 to #3. But Harris IS better then Henry BTW, but Spencer is their #2. Henry may be better (I'm not sure, I didn't watch enough 9ers games to know) then Spencer but the difference between Glenn and Harris more then makes up for it.

[stasheroo]

Originally Posted by firehawk350

Okay, sorry, I didn't know Colombo signed a two year, I thought it was one. And please, elaborate, why is Cooley worse then Witten? San Fran's top three CBs (I didn't say secondary) ARE better then yours. Nate Clements > Newman and Walt Harris is WAY better then Glenn.

Now I see your problem, it's basic math:

You claim that San Fran's 3 corners are better than Dallas' and then mention 2?!?!?

And you claim that Cooley (who couldn't block me) is better than Pro Bowler Jason Witten when numbers say otherwise?

The fact is that you obviously know next to nothing about the subject you're trying to talk about.

Get your facts straight before you try to chime in next time.

[burmafrd]

The reason Wittens td production went down is that we used MB3 as the guy down on the goal line.

[burmafrd]

Clements stats look better. Newman real stats - based on KC Joyners matrix and accepted by intelligent people outside of skin fans- is much better because Newman was not thrown at nearly as much as clement was. Newman allowed fewer catches, fewer tds, a lower completion rate. In every way that matters outside of BSPN highlights Newman is a much better CB.