Ginn runs in the 4.4s --Updated

[CrazyCowboy]

It don't take a brain surgeon to see this guy is FAST....FAST....FAST!

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by CrazyCowboy

It don't take a brain surgeon to see this guy is FAST....FAST....FAST!

That he is. Scouts have been following him over the last couple of years and I think they have a good feel for Ginn and what he can do. After all it is not as if the combines are the 1st time they have seen these players. I think way too much is being placed on combines and pro days, these are tools for the scouts but it is a small fraction of information that scouts gather on players

[CATCH17]

Ginn would be a perfect pick for us.

He wont have to step in right away and he can learn from 2 of the best receivers in the game and hopefully good coaching at that position.

Plus we'd have one of the best return games in the league and our offense can use all the help it can get.

[aikemirv]

Originally Posted by Tristan

I think it's kinda funny how some people act like Ginn isn't really worth a first round pick. In reality we have no right to even be hoping to get a guy like Ginn at 22, if by some miracle he falls to twenty two then he might be the most talented pick 22 in history.

Tedd Ginn is a top ten talent IMO, he is a Reggie Bush caliber playmaker that doesn't come around but once every five years or so. Theres no doubt in my mind if we should take him at 22, the only doubt I have is him dropping out of the top ten or fifteen.

I am with you there. If Ginn falls to 22 I will be shocked. Do you guys remember a coverted QB who was being switched to WR with freakish speed. His name was Matt Jones and he was taken in the low 20's. I don't see how a guy like Ginn makes it to 22. He is an established WR with great return ability.

He is a playmaker in the mold of Hester on special teams and S Moss as WR.

I don't see how in the world he falls to us.

[ConcordCowboy]

So the guy runs a 4.38 when he's 75% or whatever.

That's pretty damn good to me.

If he's there Pick the guy.

[WoodysGirl]

per PFW Draft Blog

Ted Ginn works out
Following his injury in the BCS national championship, there has been much speculation as to how WR Ted Ginn Jr. will heal and whether his inability to work out at the NFL Scouting Combine would hurt his draft status. Well, we're hearing a mixed reaction on Ginn's workout at Ohio State. Veteran scouts have said Ginn is one of the fastest players they had ever watched. At his workout Wednesday, he was clocked three times in the 40, his fastest a blazing 4.38 and his slowest a not-too-shabby 4.44. Considering he was running with a bad foot and still clocked under 4.4, scouts walked away with no questions about his speed.

While route-running has never been his strength, Ginn’s foot had a noticeable effect on the workout. He seemed unable to plant and cut effectively and did not run many routes before having to stop the workout. According to some in attendance, his demanding father, a legendary high school coach in Ohio, appeared upset Ginn wasn’t able to do everything at 100 percent.

Regardless of his inability to finish the workout, Ginn’s game tape is all the evidence teams need to feel comfortable that he can play at an elite level. However, do not be surprised if durability issues — he is small and slight-framed — forces his draft stock to slide somewhat.

Posted by Paul Tenorio on April 11, 2007 12:41 PM | Permalink | Comments (0) |

[Tristan]

THEOGT,

Your a funny guy!, Not very smart though.

We'll see just how comical your statements are when Tedd Ginn gets drafted in the top fifteen, beleive me not every team in the top 15 is as clueless as you.

[DallasEast]

Even a highly touted college quarterback like Dan Marino can fall to the 27th pick in the first round. Why is it such an impossibility that Ginn, who's main asset is blazing speed, can't fall to the bottom 1/3 of the first round?

[InmanRoshi]

I would take Devin Hester in the 1st round, even if all he was is a kick returner. There are are typically around 30 special team snaps per game. A returner who can field both punts and kicks can typically expect to get the ball in their hands 6-10 times a game. Which means they have the ball in their hands as much, if not more, than an All Pro WR (Torry Holt only averaged 5.8 touches per game). If you add up the yards returned, plus all the hidden yards he picks up for the Bears when opponents directional kick away from him, you're probably looking at 80-120 yards per game.

[theogt]

Originally Posted by Tristan

THEOGT,

Your a funny guy!, Not very smart though.

We'll see just how comical your statements are when Tedd Ginn gets drafted in the top fifteen, beleive me not every team in the top 15 is as clueless as you.

I believe you're too smart for me. Ted Ginn will surely be drafted in the top 15.

To be honest, I'm not sure where he'll be drafted. But simply stating, "you guys are dumb if you think he won't be drafted in the top 15," is not much of an argument.

[theogt]

Here are Ginn's splits:

Height: 5112
Weight: 178
40 Yrd Dash: 4.38
20 Yrd Dash: 2.48
10 Yrd Dash: 1.47

That 10 yard split would have put him as 4th fastest at the Combine among receivers. His 20-yard time would have been 2nd fastest.

[Chuck 54]

Originally Posted by Julius Jones

If a team is interested just watch the film.

If watching film was all that mattered, Jarrett would be our choice. Even before his injury, his posted time was 4.34, which is not really faster than Meacham.

Gin is no where near my first choice at WR.

[Tristan]

I'm not saying that any one who doesn't think Ginn will be taken in the top 15 is "dumb", nor do I think it is an impossibility for him to be there at #22.

My point was that in many years when you have the 22 pick your looking at guys like Roddy White, Marc Clayton, Matt Jones, Bryant Johnson, Michael Jenkins etc.

While watching Ginn play I would never have imagined in my wildest dreams that we would actually have a chance to draft him, unless we somehow had a top ten pick. I personally think he is one of the most phenominal talents I have ever seen play college football. From the day he stepped on to the field at OSU it was apparent that this was a rare, special talent.

I can't say how he will be in the NFL, no one can. Will he develop into a more polished and stronger football player? I don't know.

But from what I've seen to this point, he is a big time gamebreaker, He may not be Reggie Bush, but I put him right there as far as how special he is.

When teams are drafting guys like Lee Evans, Reggie Williams, Mike Williams and Troy Williamson in the top twelve, then I think it's astounding that teams wouldn't be salivating at the thought of drafting a player as exciting and explosive as Ginn based on potential alone.

I just feel that we would be incridebly fortunate to have Ginn drop anywher close to our pick, let alone ponder if we should take him. If I were a GM I would trade up to get him if need be.

I sure hope the Redskins don't like him as much as I do.

[jackrussell]

Originally Posted by DallasEast

Even a highly touted college quarterback like Dan Marino can fall to the 27th pick in the first round. Why is it such an impossibility that Ginn, who's main asset is blazing speed, can't fall to the bottom 1/3 of the first round?

I agree DE....I said this in November...and am sticking to it....

Originally Posted by jackrussell

I'm thinking more of our (hopefully) draft position.

Bottom 3rd of the draft....Ginn could solve our 3rd WR(or Terry glenn replacement)...KR....PR....emergcency QB.......nickel CB position.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=135

I've seen people rank him as high as a top 10 selection..and now somehow he's falling. He can't fall in my eyes when I've felt all along he was a bottom of the 1st rounder. At least I'm consistant.

[Chuck 54]

Originally Posted by InmanRoshi

I would take Devin Hester in the 1st round, even if all he was is a kick returner. There are are typically around 30 special team snaps per game. A returner who can field both punts and kicks can typically expect to get the ball in their hands 6-10 times a game. Which means they have the ball in their hands as much, if not more, than an All Pro WR (Torry Holt only averaged 5.8 touches per game). If you add up the yards returned, plus all the hidden yards he picks up for the Bears when opponents directional kick away from him, you're probably looking at 80-120 yards per game.

difference of opinion...I wouldn't trade our #22 pick for Hester right now, knowing what I know about him unless I thought he could become a 3rd WR or a nickel CB. Most returners who have a huge year like he did don't have a career of similar numbers every year. IN the first round, I want a starter on offense or defense.