To get Talib now.... - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Manster68 · 01-03-2008

...it will have to take a trade up.

That was a very nice pick-6 in the Orange Bowl.

ThreeSportStar80 · 01-03-2008

Trade up??

Bob Sacamano · 01-03-2008

the CB class looks really strong this year, alot of guys to choose from, although I don't see a real blue-chipper/Terrence Newman in the group, but still good

Jenkins from THE Ohio State
Cason
Talib
Mike Jenkins
his teammate Trae something or another
Leodis McKelvin
Tracey Porter
Tarrell Thomas

those are just the guys off the top of my head

Chocolate Lab · 01-03-2008

Combine will tell all with him. Not sure if his top-end speed is elite. (In fact, I'm pretty sure it's not.)

But he's a great ballhawk. If the ball is near him, he usually gets his hands on it somehow.

Bob Sacamano · 01-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Combine will tell all with him. Not sure if his top-end speed is elite. (In fact, I'm pretty sure it's not.)

But he's a great ballhawk. If the ball is near him, he usually gets his hands on it somehow.

if his speed isn't up to snuff, expect him to go 2nd round to a cover-2 team

theogt · 01-03-2008

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Combine will tell all with him. Not sure if his top-end speed is elite. (In fact, I'm pretty sure it's not.)

But he's a great ballhawk. If the ball is near him, he usually gets his hands on it somehow.

He did get beat deep on a few plays later, but to his credit he had the speed to close in on the receiver after getting beat initially and he made a play on the ball. Ultimately he got lucky that the WR dropped it, but without a doubt he had a role in forcing the incomplete.

I still think he'll be the 4th corner taken.

Vintage · 01-03-2008

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He did get beat deep on a few plays later, but to his credit he had the speed to close in on the receiver after getting beat initially and he made a play on the ball. Ultimately he got lucky that the WR dropped it, but without a doubt he had a role in forcing the incomplete.

I still think he'll be the 4th corner taken.

How do you think it will shake down, Corner wise?

theogt · 01-03-2008

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How do you think it will shake down, Corner wise?

Probably Malcolm Jenkins in the top 15, then Mike Jenkins/Cason both somewhere between 15-25, then Talib.

Manster68 · 01-03-2008

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Probably Malcolm Jenkins in the top 15, then Mike Jenkins/Cason both somewhere between 15-25, then Talib.

I'm guessing slightly higher than what you are saying.

Good corners are usually a hot commodity in the first round of the draft.

That is why I am iffy about Talib.

It is common for three corners to be taken before the 22nd pick.

Bluefin · 01-03-2008

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He did get beat deep on a few plays later, but to his credit he had the speed to close in on the receiver after getting beat initially and he made a play on the ball. Ultimately he got lucky that the WR dropped it, but without a doubt he had a role in forcing the incomplete.

I still think he'll be the 4th corner taken.

The receiver had to all but stop for the underthrown pass.

Not my definition of catch-up speed.

David276 · 01-03-2008

i thought the talk of him last year was he has great speed and that was his whole deal

theogt · 01-03-2008

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The receiver had to all but stop for the underthrown pass.

Not my definition of catch-up speed.

Actually, I was going to add to my post that the receiver wasn't really slowing to catch an underthrown pass. He might have slowed some, but he didn't stop. They were both in full stride. Maybe I'm wrong, but I watched it a couple times. I don't have in on DVR anymore, though.

Bob Sacamano · 01-03-2008

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i thought the talk of him last year was he has great speed and that was his whole deal

I could be wrong, but I think the talk was about his big-play ability, he had 7 INTs last year

David276 · 01-03-2008

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I could be wrong, but I think the talk was about his big-play ability, he had 7 INTs last year

haha who knows there was alot of talk about alot of CB's around draft time last year . That was a nice pick though.

Bluefin · 01-03-2008

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Actually, I was going to add to my post that the receiver wasn't really slowing to catch an underthrown pass. He might have slowed some, but he didn't stop. They were both in full stride. Maybe I'm wrong, but I watched it a couple times. I don't have in on DVR anymore, though.

I don't use a DVR, either.

But the first thing that I thought of when it happened was that it was a touchdown if the receiver hadn't been underthrown.

He didn't stop, but he had to slow down and adjust to the ball. That allowed Aquafresh to get back in the play, IMO.

It was a lot like watching a Troy Aikman pass to Michael Irvin, he almost never hit him in stride and Emmitt Smith has the rushing touchdown record because of all the tackles inside the 5 yard line.