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Old 01-03-2008   #16
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Thats one thing I really dislike about the Holidays is that everyone starts basing a propects future on a single game or even play from a bowl game.

Bad teams like the Raiders *cough* Russell *cough* do things like that .
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Thats one thing I really dislike about the Holidays is that everyone starts basing a propects future on a single game or even play from a bowl game.

Bad teams like the Raiders *cough* Russell *cough* do things like that .
I also dislike how people dismiss a player because he hasn't done anything his rookie year
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I've seen Talib all season and can tell you he has good speed not burner speed. But the dude can also play WR and I don't mean just Randy Moss routes either. He will be a first round pick unless he falls on his face at the combine.

This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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I do not want him.....he is not very good....the combine will define him to the middle of the pack


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For us to get him, he would have to declare.

I think he's a JR.....
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He should be available with our first pick should we chose to go that way, but he won't make it to our 2nd first round pick.
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For us to get him, he would have to declare.

I think he's a JR.....
he's a RS JR.

i'd expect him to come out.
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I do not want him.....he is not very good....the combine will define him to the middle of the pack
Wanna bet he gets drafted in the first round?

This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
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^^they be thems fightin' words
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There's a youtube somewhere of Jordy Nelson from KSU absolutely toasting him. Not that Nelson isn't a pretty good prospect himself, but still.

I'm not saying he isn't good, because he obviously is. But I'm not sure how much you'd want to man him up in the pros. On a zone team where he can watch the play develop and break on the ball, he'd be perfect.
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This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
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Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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I also dislike how people dismiss a player because he hasn't done anything his rookie year
Im not saying that hes a bust yet, summer. What i am saying is that he was selected first primarily based on his bowl performance last year. He has a ton of maturity issues, came out early and a questionable work ethic. Now he might suceed and to say he wont is foolish at this point but he IMO was clearly not worth the fist overall selection regardless of how he turns out.
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Im not saying that hes a bust yet, summer. What i am saying is that he was selected first primarily based on his bowl performance last year. He has a ton of maturity issues, came out early and a questionable work ethic. Now he might suceed and to say he wont is foolish at this point but he IMO was clearly not worth the fist overall selection regardless of how he turns out.
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I used to really like Talib. He started off the season really hot on both sides of the ball.

However in the last month, he really didn't provide a lot.

Someone nailed it earlier. Hes a ballhawk but from what I have seen, he takes risks and doesn't have the elite speed to do so.

I'd rather go with someone else.
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He won't go up simply based on that one play.

I think he's a 2nd rounder, possible late 1st if someone gets the jones for him. I can't put my finger on why, but I get a very Mike Rumph-like feeling about him.
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