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Sasquatch · 01-08-2008

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Originally Posted by dallasfan

Mid to late first rounders don't make big $$$. Atleast not big enough to consider price when drafting one.

I just don't think we need to draft a super stud RB to share carries with the Barbarian when we could find someone to fill that role just as competently in rounds 2 or 3.

Trust me, I won't be complaining if we nab Mendenhall or Stewart in the first round. I'm just proposing an alternative scenario for the sake of discussion.

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Originally Posted by dallasfan

Yeah but do we need a first rd CB to play 4th CB? Draft picks are like gold and it's overkill to draft 2 CBs in the first when you have a pro-bowler and a solid starter. Plenty of good CBs can be found later as well so there's no need to grab to in the first rd.

By the end of the year, one of them will be our starting third CB and both will see playing time in the nickel and in the event of injuries. If the DB class sucks the next two years and we continue to draft low, we'll be happy we grabbed two top flight shut-down types when we had the opportunity.

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Originally Posted by dallasfan

The last 2 games make it obvious to me we lack speed on offense without TO. Marion Barber had what 1 yard vs washington? He doesn't hit the hole fast enough to beat 8 man fronts, which all we'll ever face if our best WR is Patrick Crayton. While we do need a CB, and we probably should address that first we need some more speed on offense

I totally agree. That why I drafted Thomas and Savage both of whom possess game-breaking speed. I like Chris Johnson, too, but I think end of first may be too high and end of second too low.

DaBoys4Life · 01-08-2008

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I just don't think we need to draft a super stud RB to share carries with the Barbarian when we could find someone to fill that role just as competently in rounds 2 or 3.

Trust me, I won't be complaining if we nab Mendenhall or Stewart in the first round. I'm just proposing an alternative scenario for the sake of discussion.

I disagree i think the better the RB the better it is for our team as a whole. Not only is the running back that we draft going to be the replacement for JJ but very the replacement for MB3. If Barber carries go up when can expect the chance of injury to go up also. That why i feel we get 2 RB's in the first day,

jakeblaze+ · 01-09-2008

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Originally Posted by DaBoys4Life

I disagree i think the better the RB the better it is for our team as a whole. Not only is the running back that we draft going to be the replacement for JJ but very the replacement for MB3. If Barber carries go up when can expect the chance of injury to go up also. That why i feel we get 2 RB's in the first day,

we won't draft to RB's on the first day even if this year did include the 3rd Rd.
A RB in the 1st or 2nd and maybe another one in the 4th, 5th, or 6th.

dallasfan · 01-09-2008

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Originally Posted by Sasquatch

I just don't think we need to draft a super stud RB to share carries with the Barbarian when we could find someone to fill that role just as competently in rounds 2 or 3.

Right. Super Stud = McFadden. While I think Medenhall/Stewart would be great for us, they aren't super studs. And waiting late to get a RB is risky. If we need the position and there is a guy there worth the pick, you take him. What happens if there is a run of RBs right before we pick in rd 2 and we miss out?

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Originally Posted by Sasquatch

Trust me, I won't be complaining if we nab Mendenhall or Stewart in the first round. I'm just proposing an alternative scenario for the sake of discussion.

Even if we passed on the RBs and went WR/CB with the two #1s, I'd be content. IMO, 2 CBs is overkill.

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Originally Posted by Sasquatch

By the end of the year, one of them will be our starting third CB and both will see playing time in the nickel and in the event of injuries. If the DB class sucks the next two years and we continue to draft low, we'll be happy we grabbed two top flight shut-down types when we had the opportunity.

Well I would hope at the start of the season one would be the #3 CB. And there are good CBs available every year. No matter where we pick in rd 1, we can always grab one S.Brown was a 2nd in 02', R.Mathis was a 2nd in 03', Nathan Vasher was a 4th in 04' (cover 2 guy so I'll give you a slight pass). All these guys have made Pro-Bowls and are arguably the best CB from their class.

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DaBoys4Life · 01-09-2008

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Originally Posted by jakeblaze+

we won't draft to RB's on the first day even if this year did include the 3rd Rd.
A RB in the 1st or 2nd and maybe another one in the 4th, 5th, or 6th.

if we go 1st and 4th thats 2 RB's in the first day.

burmafrd · 01-09-2008

Talib is just not fast enough for the NFL. At least not for what we need.
In todays NFL, when you are looking at 3 WR sets almost half the time, you basically need 3 starting CBs. We have 2. Reeves is ok but that is all. The young guys have not shown enough to count on to even replace reeves at this point. Taking 2 in the first rd would actually make sense. I would go with Porter and Mckelvin, or maybe Cason.

DaBoys4Life · 01-09-2008

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Originally Posted by burmafrd

Talib is just not fast enough for the NFL. At least not for what we need.
In todays NFL, when you are looking at 3 WR sets almost half the time, you basically need 3 starting CBs. We have 2. Reeves is ok but that is all. The young guys have not shown enough to count on to even replace reeves at this point. Taking 2 in the first rd would actually make sense. I would go with Porter and Mckelvin, or maybe Cason.

where do you get this from ????

Theres normally a big drop from a team's number 1 CB to there number 2 CB.

The only team with a 2 really good corners is Ravens you could make a case for GB but consider how AL Harris looked against us i doubt it and maybe the Broncos but thats a reach also.

jakeblaze+ · 01-10-2008

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Originally Posted by DaBoys4Life

if we go 1st and 4th thats 2 RB's in the first day.

By first day I'm assuming you mean Day 1 of the draft as in the 1st and 2nd rd. Day 2 of the draft would consist of the 3rd through 7th rounds. So, I'm not disagreeing with you that we may draft 2 Rb's, but we will not draft a RB in the 1st Rd and another one in the 2nd Rd; that would be the 1st day.

dmoore · 01-10-2008

I've had a number of classes with Robbie Krutilla since we have the same major. He's a pretty nice guy, and he's absolutely huge. Haven't seen him play a whole lot, but from what I have heard is that he's one of the best lineman in the MAC.

Sasquatch · 01-10-2008

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Originally Posted by dmoore

I've had a number of classes with Robbie Krutilla since we have the same major. He's a pretty nice guy, and he's absolutely huge. Haven't seen him play a whole lot, but from what I have heard is that he's one of the best lineman in the MAC.

Be sure to tell him that I have him going to Cowboys. He should be elated.

DaBoys4Life · 01-10-2008

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Originally Posted by jakeblaze+

By first day I'm assuming you mean Day 1 of the draft as in the 1st and 2nd rd. Day 2 of the draft would consist of the 3rd through 7th rounds. So, I'm not disagreeing with you that we may draft 2 Rb's, but we will not draft a RB in the 1st Rd and another one in the 2nd Rd; that would be the 1st day.

it does i thought first day was rounds 1-4 but i could be wrong

Bob Sacamano · 01-10-2008

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Originally Posted by DaBoys4Life

it does i thought first day was rounds 1-4 but i could be wrong

the 4th round was never the 1st day, at least it hasn't been that way since I can remember

I don't know if the proposal went through, but this year they put in a proposal where they wanted to shorten the 1st day to 2 rounds, and a 10 minute time limit instead of 15 for the 1st round, and the 2nd round would be 7 minutes or something like that, and so on