Back to the Future mock

[Bob Sacamano]

the countdown begins....

2nd round, #51: Oregon SS Patrick Chung

rangy, athletic safety to compete with Gerald Sensabaugh to start at SS, also could contribute on special teams as a rookie

3rd round (from Cleveland), #69: Ohio State OLB Marcus Freeman

replaces Kevin Burnett's coverage responsibilities in the nickel, but unlike Burnett, Freeman has the size to turn into an every-down LB

4th round (from Detroit), #101: Arkansas C Jonathan Luigs

could replace Gurode at C and making the line-calls, or becomes Kyle Kosier part II at LG, unbelievable 1st step and is sharp as a whistle

4th round, #117: Oregon State CB Coye Francies

disappointing 40 times have dropped this offseason standout's stock, he still provides great agility, strength and explosion though

5th round, #156: Abilene Christian WR Johnny Knox

linear WR with great longspeed, burst off the snap and getting into his routes, a natural hands catcher who high-points the ball

5th round (from Tennessee), #166: Texas Tech OG Louis Vasquez

typical of TT linemen, Louis hasn't played in a traditional line scheme, but unlike most TT linemen, Vasquez isn't a finesse player, one of the strongest players in the draft pushing up 39 reps, and has been athletically tested playing in Mike Leach's spread offense

5th round (Compensatory), #172: Memphis DT Clinton McDonald

explosive, high-effort player who could swing between playing NT and DE

6th round (from Miami), #197: Virginia TE John Phillips

one of the best blockers in his class, and a solid short and mid-range target in the passing game

6th round (Compensatory), #208: Texas DE Henry Melton

intriguing pass-rush specialist who will have to grow into his role in the pros, possesses good size, burst off the snap and explosion for OLB in a 3-4, special team's gunner

7th round (from Detroit), #210: Oregon DE Nick Reed

surprisingly athletic pass-rusher with a multitude of moves and a non-stop motor, his best position may be ILB in the 3-4, backing up Bradie James and giving him a rest

7th round, #227: Utah CB Brice McCain

lightning quick defender with the speed and tenacity to excel in a man-heavy scheme, used to being on an island, explosive player who is also an asset on return teams, although he may be too small to continue returning kickoffs


bang, badda, BOOM

[Bob Sacamano]

an alternate at 117 is North Carolina WR Brandon Tate

[BAT]

Originally Posted by JerryAdvocate

an alternate at 117 is North Carolina WR Brandon Tate

I think I would prefer that alternative. Also Luigs would be destroyed in Houck's system. The guy is fast & smart, but is too weak to play in a power blocking scheme, even at center.

[28 Joker]

I'm coming around on Patrick Chung. He is good in press man but not as good in off-man. He's physical, a sure tackler, and has good size/speed. He has good instincts. He helps special teams, and he can be a force in the box. Vaughn may have a little better range, but Chung is rated higher.

I would like to have one of these three guys:

1. Patrick Chung
2. William Moore
3. Chip Vaughn

I've cooled to Freeman. He had a meniscus issue or scope. Ohio State players scare me a bit now. Although, Santonio Holmes was a great pick for the Steelers. Orlando Pace was great.

Also, I'd go with Jamie Thomas or Cornelious Lewis or Tyronne Green at guard.

Green could be your center/guard. He doesn't fit Houck's size at first glance, but he's shorter and built like a tank.

[BAT]

Originally Posted by 41gy#

I'm coming around on Patrick Chung. He is good in press man but not as good in off-man. He's physical, a sure tackler, and has good size/speed. He has good instincts. He helps special teams, and he can be a force in the box. Vaughn may have a little better range, but Chung is rated higher.

I would like to have one of these three guys:

1. Patrick Chung
2. William Moore
3. Chip Vaughn

I've cooled to Freeman. He had a meniscus issue or scope. Ohio State players scare me a bit now. Although, Santonio Holmes was a great pick for the Steelers. Orlando Pace was great.

Also, I'd go with Jamie Thomas or Cornelious Lewis or Tyronne Green at guard.

Green could be your center/guard. He doesn't fit Houck's size at first glance, but he's shorter and built like a tank.

Belichick also likes him. Memo to the Cowboys, don't listen to what belichick says, watch what he does.


Chung is a player. Pats love guys who have high football IQ and verstility. Chung fits that bill to a "T".

[big dog cowboy]

No trades?

[28 Joker]

Originally Posted by BAT

Belichick also likes him. Memo to the Cowboys, don't listen to what belichick says, watch what he does.


Chung is a player. Pats love guys who have high football IQ and verstility. Chung fits that bill to a "T".

Yeah, look at all the players the Dolphins and Patriots are bringing in. Those guys are paranoid. That may be a good thing. I agree. Look at his roster and the guys he drafts. Chung would be that type of guy.

On Ohio State:

Nick Mangold
Anthony Gonzalez

Those were two guys I left out that have done well. Both were high picks. I like Malcolm Jenkins as a cover-2 CB or safety. He's a good player.

Hawk hasn't made the Pro Bowl, yet. Plus, Carpenter can't get on the field, and Gholston didn't have a good year. I guess that is one reason why I'm gun shy right now on Ohio State linebackers.

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by BAT

I think I would prefer that alternative. Also Luigs would be destroyed in Houck's system. The guy is fast & smart, but is too weak to play in a power blocking scheme, even at center.

Exactly right, BAT-- Luigs badly needs to improve his strength...

Bobby seems to like those finesse linemen... LOL...

Seriously, if you want to draft a center at pick 101, the list should start and end with Antoine Caldwell... he is the type of physical, nasty, mauling lineman who would fit nicely into Hudson Houck's philosophy...

And let it be known that while Bobby and I like entirely different kinds of linemen, I generally agree with most of his draft philosophies...

[Bob Sacamano]

Originally Posted by silverbear

Exactly right, BAT-- Luigs badly needs to improve his strength...

Bobby seems to like those finesse linemen... LOL...

Seriously, if you want to draft a center at pick 101, the list should start and end with Antoine Caldwell... he is the type of physical, nasty, mauling lineman who would fit nicely into Hudson Houck's philosophy...

And let it be known that while Bobby and I like entirely different kinds of linemen, I generally agree with most of his draft philosophies...

it's OWN!

[Bob Sacamano]

Originally Posted by 41gy#

Yeah, look at all the players the Dolphins and Patriots are bringing in. Those guys are paranoid. That may be a good thing. I agree. Look at his roster and the guys he drafts. Chung would be that type of guy.

On Ohio State:

Nick Mangold
Anthony Gonzalez

Those were two guys I left out that have done well. Both were high picks. I like Malcolm Jenkins as a cover-2 CB or safety. He's a good player.

Hawk hasn't made the Pro Bowl, yet. Plus, Carpenter can't get on the field, and Gholston didn't have a good year. I guess that is one reason why I'm gun shy right now on Ohio State linebackers.

Hawk has had a nice career so far, he dipped in production last year, but so did the whole D, but for his career he averages 104 tackles, 2.5 sacks and an INT a season

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by JerryAdvocate

it's OWN!

OK, you bring your pretty boy agile blockers, I'll bring my smashmouth mastodons...

Robinson and Caldwell versus Meredith and Luigs, in a steel cage...

Ron Brace can be the special guest referee... you're headed for epic fail, pal...

I just hope Duke and Antoine cook Jamon and Jonathan before they eat them...

[Bob Sacamano]

Originally Posted by silverbear

OK, you bring your pretty boy agile blockers, I'll bring my smashmouth mastodons...

Robinson and Caldwell versus Meredith and Luigs, in a steel cage...

Ron Brace can be the special guest referee... you're headed for epic fail, pal...

I just hope Duke and Antoine cook Jamon and Jonathan before they eat them...

I like Caldwell, but keep the mental midget Robinson the hell away from me

[BAT]

Originally Posted by silverbear

OK, you bring your pretty boy agile blockers, I'll bring my smashmouth mastodons...

Robinson and Caldwell versus Meredith and Luigs, in a steel cage...

Ron Brace can be the special guest referee... you're headed for epic fail, pal...

I just hope Duke and Antoine cook Jamon and Jonathan before they eat them...

My guys will devour the winners. All four of those guys would just be appetizers for Herm Johnson. A couple of them may be a little tough so I'll have Mack tenderize em first.

[Woods]

I had P Chung in my first mock, and I coming around the same way as well.

I think he could help at SS, play FS in a pinch, and clearly help on STs - and make K Davis expendable most likely.

We definitely need one guy back there who is a good tackler, and by all accounts, Chung is an excellent tackler.

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by BAT

My guys will devour the winners. All four of those guys would just be appetizers for Herm Johnson. A couple of them may be a little tough so I'll have Mack tenderize em first.

All you have to do is trip Herm, and it'll take him a day and a half to get his fat butt off the ground...