Matt Barkley will announce his NFL intentions

[TheDallasDon]

Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan

Major disaster this news. Not because I was particularly interested in Barkley, but its one less option.

Winning another game is an epic fail for our franchise

We are never bad enough to be the worst team in a year where there is a potential star

I hope y'all don't draft RG III, cuz he's a player that I believe would be dangerous and I would fear him 3 times a year lol

[SkinsHokieFan]

Originally Posted by TheDallasDon

I hope y'all don't draft RG III, cuz he's a player that I believe would be dangerous and I would fear him 3 times a year lol

Rumors are swirling that he is leaning to go back to school.

RG3 is my top guy now. I hope if he does come out we make every effort to get him (which I believe we will)

If the rumors are true and he does return to school, we are in bad shape in this first round.

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan

Rumors are swirling that he is leaning to go back to school.

RG3 is my top guy now. I hope if he does come out we make every effort to get him (which I believe we will)

If the rumors are true and he does return to school, we are in bad shape in this first round.

If he comes out I am positive the Redskins will target him.

Unless they can pull a deal for Luck. That would cost a lot, but Shanahan had luck with a different Stanford QB star.

[TheDallasDon]

Originally Posted by Hostile

If he comes out I am positive the Redskins will target him.

Unless they can pull a deal for Luck. That would cost a lot, but Shanahan had luck with a different Stanford QB star.

I know this is not popular thought........but I think RG III will end up the better pro, Lucks just more pro ready NOW

[SkinsHokieFan]

Originally Posted by Hostile

If he comes out I am positive the Redskins will target him.

Unless they can pull a deal for Luck. That would cost a lot, but Shanahan had luck with a different Stanford QB star.

The Redskins will totally attempt a move to get RG3, no doubt. Cle has much more ammo though with that 1st round pick

Originally Posted by TheDallasDon

I know this is not popular thought........but I think RG III will end up the better pro, Lucks just more pro ready NOW

Right now, rumors swirling out of Ashburn is that the Redskins scouts have RG3 at 1, and Luck at 2.

[cobra]

Anyone taking RG3 over Luck is an idiot who knows nothing about NFL history.

Time and time again, the pure, smart pocket passer who can read a D has shown to be what teams need to win it all. That's Luck hands down.

The flashy dual threat has yet to lead a team to the Super Bowl. RG3 is not a better prospect than Vick. And if you are drafting, who are you taking: Vick or Peyton/Rogers/Brees/Brady? I'll take the pocket passer who can read a D. Luck has been and is the best QB prospect since Peyton. You would have to be the biggest idiot GM in history to pass on him for RG3.

So, the three camps of people who say they would want RG3 over Luck are: (1) idiots; (2) contrarians who just want to be edgy by picking against the conventional wisdom; and (3) bitter losers of the Luck sweepstakes who are trying to rationalize and make themselves feel good about the prospect of getting RG3 instead of getting Luck.

[TheDallasDon]

Originally Posted by cobra

Anyone taking RG3 over Luck is an idiot who knows nothing about NFL history.

Time and time again, the pure, smart pocket passer who can read a D has shown to be what teams need to win it all. That's Luck hands down.

The flashy dual threat has yet to lead a team to the Super Bowl. RG3 is not a better prospect than Vick. And if you are drafting, who are you taking: Vick or Peyton/Rogers/Brees/Brady? I'll take the pocket passer who can read a D. Luck has been and is the best QB prospect since Peyton. You would have to be the biggest idiot GM in history to pass on him for RG3.

So, the three camps of people who say they would want RG3 over Luck are: (1) idiots; (2) contrarians who just want to be edgy by picking against the conventional wisdom; and (3) bitter losers of the Luck sweepstakes who are trying to rationalize and make themselves feel good about the prospect of getting RG3 instead of getting Luck.

RG III can and will be a great pocket passer, and he's very intelligent

[SkinsHokieFan]

Originally Posted by TheDallasDon

RG III can and will be a great pocket passer, and he's very intelligent

Agree. His touch on the deep ball is incredible also. He has really developed as a passer

Luck has the higher floor by far and a very high ceiling.

The question is a) does RG3 have a higher ceiling and b) Is Luck>RG3+picks

[TheDallasDon]

Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan

Agree. His touch on the deep ball is incredible also. He has really developed as a passer

Luck has the higher floor by far and a very high ceiling.

The question is a) does RG3 have a higher ceiling and b) Is Luck>RG3+picks

College Prospects = the rare moment when a Cowboy and Redskin can see eye to eye on football lol

[super8]

Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan

Agree. His touch on the deep ball is incredible also. He has really developed as a passer

Luck has the higher floor by far and a very high ceiling.

The question is a) does RG3 have a higher ceiling and b) Is Luck>RG3+picks

go ahead I hope you draft the kid who can not read D's - heard it was the coach that called all plays at BAYLOR - no audibles

- Isn't comfortable taking snaps from under center. Has some experience, but doesn't get much depth, wants to settle his feet too quickly and isn't natural off play action yet.

- Doesn't consistently stay in an ideal throwing position from the pocket. Gets upright and narrow with his base and will bounce around trying to stay in rhythm.

- Lacks a great feel going through his progressions at this stage, more of a one side of the field guy who when flushed can find secondary reads.

- Doesn't do a great job pre-snap identifying the blitz and locating the hot man.

- Gets inconsistent with his release point from the pocket at times, but mostly when rolling right. Will drop arm angle and at times looks to guide the football

Sack City an INT bound

see ya in the areana league in 5 years SON

[super8]

Originally Posted by Hostile

If he comes out I am positive the Redskins will target him.

Unless they can pull a deal for Luck. That would cost a lot, but Shanahan had luck with a different Stanford QB star.

yea but Shanahan did not draft Elway

[super8]

Originally Posted by jnday

He is entering th draft . A least that is what he said a few days ago .

USC OT Matt Kalil Declares for NFL Draft

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...-he-stand.html

[rkell87]

Originally Posted by super8

see ya in the areana league in 5 years SON

lol i'd take this bet in a heart beat. baylor is no slouch academic school and griffin is about to get his masters. far less talented QBs have made it longer than five years in this league and far less intelligent ones have as well

[cobra]

Originally Posted by TheDallasDon

RG III can and will be a great pocket passer, and he's very intelligent

RG3 might be intelligent, but there is a difference between native intelligence and ability to read a D and run an offense.

RG3 runs a gimmicky college offense. And he does it from the shotgun spread (easy) with no audibles. And if the first read or two isn't there, he runs.

Sure, he can sit and the pocket and throw a catchable ball. But that does not equate to RUNNING an offense or reading a defense.

It is without dispute that Luck can do it because he has done it. He is the epitome of a prospect that fits in the Peyton/Brady/Brees/Rogers mold. He can run an O, audible and shred a D.

RG3 has never shown he can do that and it is a FACT that the attention on him is largely driven by his dual threat nature. Because if you just wanted someone who could put up big passing numbers in a gimmick spread offense, Case Keenum would be on par with RG3. But he's not. Because everyone wants RG3 dual threat. And, as I noted, history conclusively establishes you are better off with a QB like Luck than Griffin if your goal is to win it all.

Again:

So, the three camps of people who say they would want RG3 over Luck are: (1) idiots; (2) contrarians who just want to be edgy by picking against the conventional wisdom; and (3) bitter losers of the Luck sweepstakes who are trying to rationalize and make themselves feel good about the prospect of getting RG3 instead of getting Luck.

(And, someone could be in more than 1 of those camps as Redskins fans drooling over RG3 are in camp #1 and #3)

[cobra]

Originally Posted by rkell87

lol i'd take this bet in a heart beat. baylor is no slouch academic school and griffin is about to get his masters. far less talented QBs have made it longer than five years in this league and far less intelligent ones have as well

Native intelligence and good academic performance is not really the issue. I like the kid. He has a good head on his shoulders and seems bright.

The issue here is that he has never shown that he can run an NFL offense. That doesn't mean he sucks. It just means you cannot possibly see him as a better prospect than Luck.

Luck is the best QB prospect since Peyton Manning. RG3 is not. There have been a litany of dual threat and spread QBs over the years that are equal to better prospects than RG3.

Again, the discussion is not "can RG3 be good." He might. I think his size is going to be what really kills him. But he certainly seems like someone that is easy to cheer for.

The discussion is about whether RG3 is in the same ballpark as Luck. And the answer there is clearly no.