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12-28-2011
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#16
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As I (sorta) said in another thread, if you protect Romo and rush the passer well, you can hide a lot of warts. I think these two aspects of the game should be the team's co-#1 priority. If we take a pass rusher in the first, we take an OL in the second. As of today, the first four rounds look something like this in my dreams:
1. Melvin Ingram (OLB)
2. Brandon Washington (OG)
3. Derek Wolfe (DE)
4. Robert Brewster (C)
(This assumes DeCastro is already gone when we pick.)
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12-28-2011
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#17
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Originally Posted by VACowboy
As I (sorta) said in another thread, if you protect Romo and rush the passer well, you can hide a lot of warts. I think these two aspects of the game should be the team's co-#1 priority. If we take a pass rusher in the first, we take an OL in the second. As of today, the first four rounds look something like this in my dreams:
1. Melvin Ingram (OLB)
2. Brandon Washington (OG)
3. Derek Wolfe (DE)
4. Robert Brewster (C)
(This assumes DeCastro is already gone when we pick.)
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Interesting...
If Spencer is resigned, I don't think OLB will be a need that early.
I don't think Wolfe, whom I really like is going to last until the 3rd round.
Last edited by MichaelWinicki : 12-28-2011 at 04:51 PM.
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12-28-2011
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#18
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Hos, I gotta say I liked your earlier mock better.
Love the first pick.
Not big on Foles. Too lumbering. Also don't think his YPA is high enough to justify a 2nd round pick on him.
CB covering ability is bigger to me than the return ability and I don't think Boykin is a good enough cover guy to spend a 3rd on.
Also, I wouldn't get to amped about signing Campbell... I just don't think Dallas will have a shot.
That being said, I'd prefer taking Wolfe in the 2nd round and a better cover corner in round 3.
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12-28-2011
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#19
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Originally Posted by VACowboy
As I (sorta) said in another thread, if you protect Romo and rush the passer well, you can hide a lot of warts. I think these two aspects of the game should be the team's co-#1 priority. If we take a pass rusher in the first, we take an OL in the second. As of today, the first four rounds look something like this in my dreams:
1. Melvin Ingram (OLB)
2. Brandon Washington (OG)
3. Derek Wolfe (DE)
4. Robert Brewster (C)
(This assumes DeCastro is already gone when we pick.)
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I'm against picking any OL with that name.
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12-28-2011
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#20
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Originally Posted by VACowboy
As I (sorta) said in another thread, if you protect Romo and rush the passer well, you can hide a lot of warts. I think these two aspects of the game should be the team's co-#1 priority. If we take a pass rusher in the first, we take an OL in the second. As of today, the first four rounds look something like this in my dreams:
1. Melvin Ingram (OLB)
2. Brandon Washington (OG)
3. Derek Wolfe (DE)
4. Robert Brewster (C)
(This assumes DeCastro is already gone when we pick.)
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I think you meant Michael Brewster (C).
It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed.
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12-28-2011
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#21
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Originally Posted by Hostile
It seems pretty obvious to me that what this team needs to push us past this level to the next level is the OL issues resolved. To that end, I would focus on David DeCastro in this draft and would trade up to get him if I had to. Make this team so good on Offense that the Defense can afford the gambles they like to take.
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I've mentioned it in other threads -- I'm sold on improving the offense first. The NFL is about offense and the Cowboys offense isn't so far from being elite. It is time to complete the offense and move it up to elite status.
Go OL early, absolutely. Yes, pick up another FB and don't be a bit shy about picking one earlier than Round 6 if you are sold on him. I'm not ready to draft Romo's replacement yet, but I could be ready to draft Witten's replacement it is decided that it is time to part ways with MartyB.
I think Boykin would be a dynamic addition.
Answer for this off-season: Assemble an elite offense.
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12-28-2011
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#22
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White and Nerdy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostile
It seems pretty obvious to me that what this team needs to push us past this level to the next level is the OL issues resolved. To that end, I would focus on David DeCastro in this draft and would trade up to get him if I had to. Make this team so good on Offense that the Defense can afford the gambles they like to take.
1st round...David DeCastro, OG, Stanford, 6'5", 315. Better run and pass blocking puts this Offense on par with the Saints and Packers. This guy makes too much sense not to go after hard.
2nd round...Nick Foles, QB, Arizona, 6'5", 240. If the other top QBs do go back to school, this guy might move into the 1st round. We were eyeing Andy Dalton last year. McGee is not a long term answer once Tony is ready to step aside. Here is our long term answer. Yeah, it's a homer pick for me, but a good one.
[View Full Quote]3rd round...Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia, 5'10", 185. I want him mainly as a Return guy, but CB depth is vital too. I am tired of Kick Returners jogging to the 20. Hit top speed and run.
4th round...Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State, 6'4", 305. I think Kowalski was a little better than Costa. I don't think either were good enough.
5th round...Asa Jackson, CB, Cal Poly, 5'10", 188. He has speed to burn, we need speed and depth.
6th round...Jerry Franklin, ILB, Arkansas, 6'1", 245. With Brooking and James both likely gone we need depth here. One will be a veteran, the other a rookie. This kid makes tackles.
6th round...Comp pick...Cody Johnson, FB, Texas, 5'11", 252. Insurance against Chapas not being what we want and Fiammetta being injured.
7th round...Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma, 5'10", 188. Will drop because of his injury. Is a perfect choice as a Wes Welker type small guy who is fearless and will make hard catches. Worth waiting a year for if the ACL isn't ready by 2012.
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I dont like Foles, he is a statue. If we had Aikman's OL, Foles would be a great addition to the team, but Romo has to run for his life on every snap....Foles can't run, he will be beaten to a pulp.....and that is a lot of pulp as big as he is.
GO GO
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12-28-2011
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#23
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Originally Posted by ZeroClub
I've mentioned it in other threads -- I'm sold on improving the offense first. The NFL is about offense and the Cowboys offense isn't so far from being elite. It is time to complete the offense and move it up to elite status.
Go OL early, absolutely. Yes, pick up another FB and don't be a bit shy about picking one earlier than Round 6 if you are sold on him. I'm not ready to draft Romo's replacement yet, but I could be ready to draft Witten's replacement it is decided that it is time to part ways with MartyB.
I think Boykin would be a dynamic addition.
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I agree, offense wins in the NFL these days.
Look at Green Bay, New England and New Orleans. Those 3 QBs get a lot of credit, but their Offensive Lines are playing at high level also. The 1 game that GB lost was the game where 2 of their starting OL were out. NE and NO each have 2 OL in the Pro Bowl.
I don't dislike Boykin, but there are probably at least 10 better CBs in this draft. Boykin should be a good PR but NFL KRs usually have sturdier builds like a RB.
My favorite returner is Jeff Demps. He is short but solid and has ridiculous speed. He might need to play some slot WR to get on the field with the offense.
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12-28-2011
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#24
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Originally Posted by JonJon
I also don't know if I would go QB this high in this draft. I still think Romo has a good 5 years left in him, so right now might not be the best time to get his replacement. Maybe in 2014 or 2015, but not now.
I would go after an edge rusher or 3-4 DE instead.
2nd round options:
Derek Wolfe, DE/DT, Cincinnati, 6'5", 302
Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina, 6'4", 276
Vinny Curry, DE/OLB, Marshall, 6,5", 263
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If Romo is still playing at a high level and Foles has proven himself to be ready to start in the NFL, you're at a tremendous position of strength. Young talented QBs bring a lot in return and provide good insurance against injury. Everyone knows we were interested in Dalton last year. Just imagine if we had Dalton coming in off the bench when Romo went down. Would feel a lot better about our chances.
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12-29-2011
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#25
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i'm still not sold on cody johnson making the switch to fullback.
i like the broyles pick, hate the foles pick. we have too many holes on this team to be using a 2nd round pick on a backup qb.
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12-29-2011
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#26
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Originally Posted by burmafrd
Sorry but we need to think about Romo's health and this O line interior is not good for it. Whine about the D all you want but the interior O line is just as important. As long as some of you manage to realize that a injured Romo sinks us just as fast if not faster then the D.
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I think this draft is sorting out in such a way that a savvy-drafting team could address their defensive issues AND their offensive line early on...
Without going into names, the Boys could secure good players at the following positions:
1st round-- CB
2nd round-- OL
3rd round-- DL or LB
4th round-- DB
5th round-- OL...
With the 3 picks in the late rounds, address the offensive skill positions-- maybe a backup QB, a FB, TE depth, and by all means, a RB or WR who has return skills...
Smarter than the av-er-age bear...
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12-29-2011
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#27
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Semi-Official Loose Cannon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dboy214
i'm still not sold on cody johnson making the switch to fullback.
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Don't look now, but he's been the Horns' fullback for the last two seasons...
Smarter than the av-er-age bear...
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12-29-2011
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#28
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Originally Posted by JonJon
I think you meant Michael Brewster (C).
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Yeah, sorry.
Trade into the second round for a third, then...
1. Ingram
2. Wolfe
3. Zeitler
3. Fleener
4. Brewster
Does anyone really think Ingram lasts into round two?
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12-29-2011
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#29
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Originally Posted by VACowboy
Yeah, sorry.
Trade into the second round for a third, then...
1. Ingram
2. Wolfe
3. Zeitler
3. Fleener
4. Brewster
Does anyone really think Ingram lasts into round two?
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You really won't know until after the combine.
But if Spencer is retained... It won't matter. Ingram won't be the pick regardless.
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12-29-2011
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#30
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Virtus Mille Scuta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silverbear
I think this draft is sorting out in such a way that a savvy-drafting team could address their defensive issues AND their offensive line early on...
Without going into names, the Boys could secure good players at the following positions:
1st round-- CB
2nd round-- OL
3rd round-- DL or LB
4th round-- DB
5th round-- OL...
With the 3 picks in the late rounds, address the offensive skill positions-- maybe a backup QB, a FB, TE depth, and by all means, a RB or WR who has return skills...
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I agree... I think the OL can wait till the 2nd if not the 3rd round we need some difference makers in the secondary.
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