Bunting NFP Big Board Top 30

[RS12]

Bunting has DeCastro at 4 and Konz at 6.

01 Andrew Luck QB 6-4 235 Stanford 9.0
02 Morris Claiborne CB 6-0 185 Louisiana State 8.5 J
03 Trent Richardson RB 5-11 224 Alabama 8.5
04 David DeCastro OG 6-5 310 Stanford 8.5
05 Dre Kirkpatrick SS 6-3 192 Alabama 8.0 J
06 Peter Konz C 6-5 315 Wisconsin 8.0 J
07 Matt Kalil OT 6-7 295 Southern California 8.0 B J
08 Robert Griffin III QB 6-2 220 Baylor 7.5 J

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[supercowboy8]

I have never big a big fan of Buntings, and with him having RG3 falling is just an example of that reason. After the year he had and that bowl game, why would he be falling.

Devon Still at 9 you have to be joking me, the guy is off and on way to much to be that high.

Kendell Wright one behind Blackmon sorry but they aren't that close together.

Barron at 13 is a joke, the guy is way over rated, he is a zone in the box SS and can only play in a tampa 2 defense.

Amini Silatolu in the top 25, wow.

[Picksix]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

I have never big a big fan of Buntings, and with him having RG3 falling is just an example of that reason. After the year he had and that bowl game, why would he be falling.

Devon Still at 9 you have to be joking me, the guy is off and on way to much to be that high.

Kendell Wright one behind Blackmon sorry but they aren't that close together.

Barron at 13 is a joke, the guy is way over rated, he is a zone in the box SS and can only play in a tampa 2 defense.

Amini Silatolu in the top 25, wow.

Well, the teams he'll be playing in the NFL actually play some defense. The Big 12 is awful defensively, and I live in Seattle, and there is very little NFL talent on that defense.

That said, he should easily be a top pick, but there's nothing wrong with being critical, as long as it's justified. I love RG3 based on what I saw this year, but maybe there are some fundamental flaws that could hurt him in the pros. Or maybe he just decided there were other guys he liked better. Nobody's perfect, but he was the one pimping Tyron Smith before anyone else.

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by Picksix

Well, the teams he'll be playing in the NFL actually play some defense. The Big 12 is awful defensively, and I live in Seattle, and there is very little NFL talent on that defense.

Well, the Longhorns had one of the nation's top defenses, and Baylor lit them up pretty good...

[cobra]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

with him having RG3 falling is just an example of that reason. After the year he had and that bowl game, why would he be falling.

Falling? He's #8. That seems high to me. The people who have been calling RG3 on par with Luck are the ones who are smoking crack.

RG3 is not being drafted to play a gimmick spread offense in the Big 12. He'll be drafting to run an NFL offense in the NFL--something that we have no evidence to show he will be successful.

RG3's negatives:

• Too small/slight
• No experience in calling own plays
• No experience in pro style offense
• Very little experience under center
• Too willing to run when first options are not there

His positives:

• Elite athleticism
• Productive
• Can run
• Has all the arm you need
• Good kid

The NFL is and always has been a pocket passer league. Brees, Brady and Rogers is what the NFL wants. Sure, the Cam Newtons and Tebows make things interesting, but that is not what wins championships. It's the pocket passers.


RG3 will have highlight games and make crazy plays, but he is too slight to keep it up and will be broken in this league. And he will break hearts too teasing fans with potential.

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by cobra

Falling? He's #8. That seems high to me. The people who have been calling RG3 on par with Luck are the ones who are smoking crack.

RG3 is not being drafted to play a gimmick spread offense in the Big 12. He'll be drafting to run an NFL offense in the NFL--something that we have no evidence to show he will be successful.

RG3's negatives:

• Too small/slight
• No experience in calling own plays
• No experience in pro style offense
• Very little experience under center
• Too willing to run when first options are not there

His positives:

• Elite athleticism
• Productive
• Can run
• Has all the arm you need
• Good kid

The NFL is and always has been a pocket passer league. Brees, Brady and Rogers is what the NFL wants. Sure, the Cam Newtons and Tebows make things interesting, but that is not what wins championships. It's the pocket passers.


[View Full Quote]RG3 will have highlight games and make crazy plays, but he is too slight to keep it up and will be broken in this league. And he will break hearts too teasing fans with potential.

Bunting has a arrow pointing down next to his name meaning he fell. I don't know what he could have done to make him fall.

I'm just not a fan of Bunting, what has he ever done to warrant so much praise. He took a online coarse any of us can take for $1700 and get alittle paper. Then he started a web site which anyone can do. Has he ever worked for a team as a scout.

[cobra]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

Bunting has a arrow pointing down next to his name meaning he fell. I don't know what he could have done to make him fall.

I'm just not a fan of Bunting, what has he ever done to warrant so much praise. He took a online coarse any of us can take for $1700 and get alittle paper. Then he started a web site which anyone can do. Has he ever worked for a team as a scout.

I don't know Bunting or anything about him. All I know is that his assessment of Griffin is not underrating him.

[unionjack8]

its not about his stock falling, maybe he just finished analysing a player that got slotted above him.

[CATCH17]

Originally Posted by cobra

Falling? He's #8. That seems high to me. The people who have been calling RG3 on par with Luck are the ones who are smoking crack.

RG3 is not being drafted to play a gimmick spread offense in the Big 12. He'll be drafting to run an NFL offense in the NFL--something that we have no evidence to show he will be successful.

RG3's negatives:

• Too small/slight
• No experience in calling own plays
• No experience in pro style offense
• Very little experience under center
• Too willing to run when first options are not there

His positives:

• Elite athleticism
• Productive
• Can run
• Has all the arm you need
• Good kid

The NFL is and always has been a pocket passer league. Brees, Brady and Rogers is what the NFL wants. Sure, the Cam Newtons and Tebows make things interesting, but that is not what wins championships. It's the pocket passers.


[View Full Quote]RG3 will have highlight games and make crazy plays, but he is too slight to keep it up and will be broken in this league. And he will break hearts too teasing fans with potential.

RG3 has more upside than Luck. He's smart, mobile, accurate, and throws the ball downfield probably better than anyone in this draft.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

I have never big a big fan of Buntings, and with him having RG3 falling is just an example of that reason. After the year he had and that bowl game, why would he be falling.

Devon Still at 9 you have to be joking me, the guy is off and on way to much to be that high.

Kendell Wright one behind Blackmon sorry but they aren't that close together.

Barron at 13 is a joke, the guy is way over rated, he is a zone in the box SS and can only play in a tampa 2 defense.

Amini Silatolu in the top 25, wow.

He doesn't have RG3 falling exactly. Bunting does his ratings by rating a players ability to transition immediately, meaning most nfl ready (in his opinion). I used to be a little confused by his lists as well, but ever since I found that out, they make a bit more sense. It doesn't mean he thinks RG3 is a bad player, he just thinks his transition may be a bit tougher than the prospects above him.

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by TheCount

He doesn't have RG3 falling exactly. Bunting does his ratings by rating a players ability to transition immediately, meaning most nfl ready (in his opinion). I used to be a little confused by his lists as well, but ever since I found that out, they make a bit more sense. It doesn't mean he thinks RG3 is a bad player, he just thinks his transition may be a bit tougher than the prospects above him.

no understand that but he did put him down the list, which is why the arrow pointing down next to RG3 name. TO me I don't see any of those guys above him warrent moving over RG3.
Thats just IMO, which I disagree on what Bunting says on alot of players.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

no understand that but he did put him down the list, which is why the arrow pointing down next to RG3 name. TO me I don't see any of those guys above him warrent moving over RG3.
Thats just IMO, which I disagree on what Bunting says on alot of players.

Understood. In the end, it's just a resource to get other views on players we may like. Frankly, I just hope RG3 stays out of the NFC East. I don't want to have to deal with Him, Vick and Eli year after year.

[GloryDaysRBack]

Originally Posted by CATCH17

RG3 has more upside than Luck. He's smart, mobile, accurate, and throws the ball downfield probably better than anyone in this draft.

more upside is questionable...his floor is significantly below lucks as well...luck processes information incredibly fast and is a much smarter QB..there really isnt even a debate here..Luck is hands down the better QB now and later

[Doomsday101]

05 Dre Kirkpatrick SS 6-3 192 Alabama 8.0 J ?

He is not a strong safety he is a CB

[cobra]

Originally Posted by CATCH17

RG3 has more upside than Luck. He's smart, mobile, accurate, and throws the ball downfield probably better than anyone in this draft.

False. Completely false.

Maybe more upside in college gimmicky offenses. But in the NFL it is not even close. It is why Luck is indisputably, unquestionably the number 1 pick and no NFL GM doubts that. It is why Luck is accurately called the best prospect since Elway.

The skills RG3 shows leads to a great college QB but those skills have never translated into Super Bowls. Pure pocket passers who excel in reading defenses in a pro style offense is what when Super Bowls. Seriously. Explain to me why RG3 is a better prospect than Andre Ware or Charlie Ward? Anything you can applaud RG3 about, those two were better at. Where are they now?

I'm constantly amazed at people who can't understand that a dual threat QB who runs a gimmicky spread college offense never excels in the NFL.