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Old 02-05-2012   #16
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DeCastro at 14 isn't dumb or stupid unless we spend big FA bucks on a OG like nicks... than... it would not seem to me a wise decision as you would be using your limited resources just on one position... a position by the way they addressed last draft in Arkin...knowing full well he would have to be red shirted atleast a year

I am not real thrilled with the talent available in this draft especially if an OG can receive such a high rating (top 15).
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And when I say just as good, I really mean just as bad..because both groups stink!
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I think if DeCastro is there at 14 it is dumb to pass on him.
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Yes, I did mean Silatolu..stupid iPhone, lol..
And yes, I think so..many places have him lasted as a top 4-5 guard in this class..

Also forgot about Brandon Brooks..this class is super deep
The LSC prouces good skill players, not lineman. He's not strong enough and is probably a mere step above Arkin. We already have our small school offensive lineman, and he was inactive for every single game. There are plenty of big school prospects that are battle tested worth taking ahead of him.

By the way, DeCastro at 14 is not stupid. He's the next Steve Hutchinson.
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I'm going to argue that our guards are jut as good.. Not better, but just as good as our DEs..we probably have more depth at DE, but it's a bunch of depth that is full of mediocre play. Our ends flat at do not do enough in regards to collapsing the pocket..like literally, nothing..I will call the needs a wash, the DEs get the premium pick bc this class of guards is so strong..w that said, that's only if Brockers is available. Im not suggesting we reach for a diff DE just bc. I believe Brockers is definitely worthy of our 14th pick
Hatcher did a decent job, and Lissemore will get more playing time this year. Look, I completely agree that we need more explosive front 3, but Brockers sounds like a Spears clone to me.
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Hatcher did a decent job, and Lissemore will get more playing time this year. Look, I completely agree that we need more explosive front 3, but Brockers sounds like a Spears clone to me.
I agree.

I think Hatcher played really well all things considered (injury/type of injury). I also believe we have a real player in Lissemore and he'll continue to show more with an increased role.

Coleman is toast.

Spears is what he is.

I think Spears has always been miscast as a 34 DE, he may have gotten pub being a TE when he first enrolled at LSU, but he simply isn't that athletic or sudden to be a force at DE. He likely would have been a much better (relatively speaking) 43 DT.

Conversely, I think Brockers will make a much more disruptive 34 DE than he is at DT right now.
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It's so stupid it just might work, I'm all in on DeCastro. You have us waiting till the 3rd to take Osemele, what if He is gone. Then what?
We need wins, and that's all we need. I don't give a damn about anyone on this roster over wins. I'd trade Ware, Lee and Dez if it meant more wins.
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And when I say just as good, I really mean just as bad..because both groups stink!
I did not notice our D line getting splattered like our guards and center was this season. so to claim they are the same quality means you truly have no knowledge of football.


A chance to get a possibly pro bowl guard is only stupid for those that know nothing about football
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I did not notice our D line getting splattered like our guards and center was this season. so to claim they are the same quality means you truly have no knowledge of football.


A chance to get a possibly pro bowl guard is only stupid for those that know nothing about football
Seems like everyone else noticed our DL sucking. I wouldn't expect anything else from you..
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It's so stupid it just might work, I'm all in on DeCastro. You have us waiting till the 3rd to take Osemele, what if He is gone. Then what?
I listed like 7 quality guards..there's no way 7 guards will be gone by our 3 rd rd pick. Plus, there are PLENTY of options in FA to fill 1 OG hole. I'm ok w starting Holland, Kowalski, or Arkin at the other spot. Center is a bigger need
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I listed like 7 quality guards..there's no way 7 guards will be gone by our 3 rd rd pick. Plus, there are PLENTY of options in FA to fill 1 OG hole. I'm ok w starting Holland, Kowalski, or Arkin at the other spot. Center is a bigger need
  1. DeCastro
  2. Glenn
  3. Washington
  4. Osemele
  5. Zeitler
  6. Silatolu
  7. Kelemete
  8. Brooks
You're right, 7 won't be gone.

Eight will!
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  1. DeCastro
  2. Glenn
  3. Washington
  4. Osemele
  5. Zeitler
  6. Silatolu
  7. Kelemete
  8. Brooks
You're right, 7 won't be gone.

Eight will!
You want to bet all 8 of those guards won't be gone by our pick in the 3rd?
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If DeCastro is truly the best guard prospect to come along since Steve Hutchinson. A potential hall of fame player then he is hands down the choice. The problem I have, I havent seen that written by anyone other than the posters on here.
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You want to bet all 8 of those guards won't be gone by our pick in the 3rd?
But what are you suggesting though Glory, that the team is better off just taking whatever OG happens to be left over in the 3rd round?

That's just not a smart approach to drafting IMO.

Also, you're also assuming every single one of those guards will turn out to be players, which I would be willing to bet won't be the case. So when you factor in the odds that some of those OGs will likely not ever become good players, plus the fact you'll be sifting through the remaining talent at the position that the rest of the league has gone through a few times, the chances of landing a player of landing a good player in the 3rd round diminishes.

I don't want this team to simply add another project/prospect OG to the depth chart. We already have a glut of those in Arkin, Nagy and Kowalski.
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But what are you suggesting though Glory, that the team is better off just taking whatever OG happens to be left over in the 3rd round?

That's just not a smart approach to drafting IMO.

Also, you're also assuming every single one of those guards will turn out to be players, which I would be willing to bet won't be the case. So when you factor in the odds that some of those OGs will likely not ever become good players, plus the fact you'll be sifting through the remaining talent at the position that the rest of the league has gone through a few times, the chances of landing a player of landing a good player in the 3rd round diminishes.

I don't want this team to simply add another project/prospect OG to the depth chart. We already have a glut of those in Arkin, Nagy and Kowalski.
I'm not suggesting this at all..was just telling the previous poster he was wrong.
I'd be fine w taking a guard in round two. What I am saying is that there are plenty of guards to choose from. We have numerous holes to fill, I'd rather fill as many holes as possible.
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