DeCastro at 14 is stupid

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by GloryDaysRBack

where did you hear this?

Originally Posted by TheSport78

Spagnola hinted at it a couple times and he basically relays information from Jerry.

Originally Posted by JoeCorrado

Is that the same Spagnola who says there is no way we draft a guard at 14?

It was actually 'inside' information from one of the retired scouts turned media guys. Sturm, or Bunting. I don't recall which. But early on after the season ended, one of them said the team was reportedly more interested in upgrading center than OG.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

According to you Burm. The fact is, he has not tested and until that happens, it's pretty much popular opinion on this player.

Be introspective and look at what you are basing your opinions on. Are you saying that you base your opinions on what you know to be true or are you saying that you think this is true?

I think this is a deep draft at the guard position. I will wait to see what the combine and scouts say.

The combine is nearly irrelevant for guards and centers.

[Teague31]

to win the east you have to beat the giants (and to a lesser extent the eagles). that means you better be able to protect your QB. If that means taking a guard at 14, so be it.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by GloryDaysRBack

I, like many people on here, have had DeCastro very high up on my wish list. However, the reality of the situation is that this class of guards is incredibly deep. Strategically, it makes absolutely zero sense to use a first round pick on a hole that can EASILY be filled in rounds 2, 3, or even 4.

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Boykin
Osemele

Drafting very talented players is not stupid regardless of his position and DeCastro by almost all accounts is one of the very best in this draft.

What is stupid is acting like the position he plays is not important. If those guys at Guard were considered as talented as him they would be ranked higher they are not and the reason DeCastro is the best of the bunch.

Many would like to see Dallas get Nicks do you know why Nicks price tag will be pretty hefty because he is one of the top guards in the NFL quality players make quality money and quality prospects get drafted higher

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

According to you Burm. The fact is, he has not tested and until that happens, it's pretty much popular opinion on this player.

Be introspective and look at what you are basing your opinions on. Are you saying that you base your opinions on what you know to be true or are you saying that you think this is true?

I think this is a deep draft at the guard position. I will wait to see what the combine and scouts say.

From watching him in multiple games. From every scouting report and everything else has been said about him.

I said he has the fewest question marks.

I do not know why you cannot grasp that fact.

[visionary]

if DeCastro is on the baord at 14 the only way i dont take him is if Melvin Ingram is on the board and we have not re-signed Spencer (so SOLB would be a greater need) and we picked a high profile OG in FA (nicks, grubbs, ellis)

they both have the potential to be elite players

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by Teague31

to win the east you have to beat the giants (and to a lesser extent the eagles). that means you better be able to protect your QB. If that means taking a guard at 14, so be it.

It's that simple really.

Like I've said, this happens every year. If you took a poll immediately following another disastrous close to the regular season, it would overwhelmingly lean towards drafting/signing offensive linemen.

But as time passes, for whatever reason, it starts tilting away from the obvious flaw and drops down on the priorities list, suddenly there are other greater needs and offensive line doesn't seem nearly as sexy as it was.

[BraveHeartFan]

I'm all for improving the interior o-line as much as possible. So that makes great sense to me at 14.

[cbow44]

Originally Posted by realtick

Lookie what I found here:

"The best guard coming out since Steve Hutchinson in 2001. DeCastro is intense, explosive, patient, and has excellent recoverability in pass protection."

From Ourlads http://www.ourlads.com/top-32-colleg...t/2012/1178241

You can now have peace of mind knowing that some draft website has said DeCastro and Hutchinson in the same breath.

Great, this is what I asked for. Thanks. So you agree that if one of the guys "Our Lads" have rated higher,say Quiton Coples, Dre Kirkpatrick or Alphonso Dennard is still setting there at 14 you take one of them?

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by BraveHeartFan

I'm all for improving the interior o-line as much as possible. So that makes great sense to me at 14.

I agree but will say that is not my only option at 14. We know we need to upgrade the interior line, we also have to make some moves in the secondary and likely at the OLB. How we go about doing it matters little to me as long as we get quality players to fill these roles. Clearly DeCastro is an option that would address a major need.

[realtick]

Originally Posted by cbow44

Great, this is what I asked for. Thanks. So you agree that if one of the guys "Our Lads" have rated higher,say Quiton Coples, Dre Kirkpatrick or Alphonso Dennard is still setting there at 14 you take one of them?

No, not at all.

I wouldn't take Quinton Coples or Alphonso Dennard over DeCastro for a number of reasons.

But more to the point, what Ourlads, WalterFootball, ESPN, Matt Mayock, Wes Bunting, Draftek, Who'sYourMommaMockDraft, et cetera, has to say about how they rate or rank the prospects has absolutely ZILCH to do with how the Cowboys team scouts and staff (or any other team) view the prospects.

[casmith07]

Originally Posted by Idgit

It was actually 'inside' information from one of the retired scouts turned media guys. Sturm, or Bunting. I don't recall which. But early on after the season ended, one of them said the team was reportedly more interested in upgrading center than OG.

I wouldn't blame the team for being interested in upgrading center at all.

[realtick]

Originally Posted by cruz_aedo861

pwned great job realtick always enjoy your post and insight.

as much as i like decastro the player i most covet in this draft is janoris jenkins. i grade him higher than morris claiborne and would jump all over him at 14 regardless of the issues. but i dont see that happening.

hey realtick do you see us picking up either tyler hansen (colorado) or aaron corp (richmond)as a udfa. or brock oswiler falling to 4th which i dont see happening

UDFAs are so hard to predict. Teams are fickle, sometimes just bringing in a player because he's local; other times because someone on the coaching staff has a connection (see: Romo and Sean Payton). Hansen is definitely a UDFA type; he's got an uphill battle being of small stature and only really have one full season under his belt.

Corps a former USC player that transfered to Richmond (as you already know I'm sure), so you have to think he's got some talent to work with.

I think they're both UDFA types, but your guess is as good as mine as far as the Cowboys bringing them in.

[M'Kevon]

Originally Posted by GloryDaysRBack

I, like many people on here, have had DeCastro very high up on my wish list. However, the reality of the situation is that this class of guards is incredibly deep. Strategically, it makes absolutely zero sense to use a first round pick on a hole that can EASILY be filled in rounds 2, 3, or even 4.

Quick mock

Brockers
Boykin
Osemele

Isn't this the same defective thinking that got us Julius Jones instead of Stephen Jackson???

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by M'Kevon

Isn't this the same defective thinking that got us Julius Jones instead of Stephen Jackson???

pretty much

Of course as often injured as Jackson has been; plus Our O line woes, it probably did not in the end make that much difference.