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02-09-2012
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Run-loving Dino
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Love how all year -- or for two years now -- people claim that Garrett is cleaning out the locker room, that he'll only bring in "the right kind of guy", that he'd never have brought in a Dez type... But now that a guy with some talent comes along, people want to throw all that away and spend one of the most valuable resources we have on him.
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Jason Garrett offense rank minus Tony Sparano: 18, 14, 7, 15, 15
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02-09-2012
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#32
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab
Love how all year -- or for two years now -- people claim that Garrett is cleaning out the locker room, that he'll only bring in "the right kind of guy", that he'd never have brought in a Dez type... But now that a guy with some talent comes along, people want to throw all that away and spend one of the most valuable resources we have on him.
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If I had a say then maybe a 2nd rd after doing allot of back ground checking on him. I could not do it in rd 1, I know he has talent but the baggage worries me.
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02-09-2012
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#33
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I like Jenkins ... I think he has some serious talent and could come in and start right away. Obviously the character issues are a concern, but the guy could've easily took the easy way out and entered the draft last year, but he decided to finish school and get a degree before entering the pros. It's obvious he's trying to clean up his act and it looks like he has, so I would draft him.
But it all depends on what we do in free agency in my eyes. If we sign a offensive lineman like Nicks or Grubbs and also sign a top corner like Finnegan or Carr, then there's no need to draft Jenkins so then I would look for a pass rusher. Let's see what the Cowboys do in free agency and then I think we'll have a clearer picture on who they'll target in the draft.
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don't want to do ... to achieve what they want to achieve."
Tom Landry.
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02-09-2012
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#34
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Originally Posted by burmafrd
and how does this help the boys if he has NOT changed?
Or if after getting his money, he decided he wanted to make it rain?
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I never said he hasn't really changed i was just saying stop thinking or assuming he hasn't.
Also you are getting mad at people getting happy that he is saying he has turned a new leaf. At the end of the day what do you expect from him? To say he has not changed?
Overall i believe he has. He got kicked out of Florida, saw his career going down the drain, that is a wake up call.
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02-09-2012
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#35
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Originally Posted by Frozen700
I never said he hasn't really changed i was just saying stop thinking or assuming he hasn't.
Also you are getting mad at people getting happy that he is saying he has turned a new leaf. At the end of the day what do you expect from him? To say he has not changed?
Overall i believe he has. He got kicked out of Florida, saw his career going down the drain, that is a wake up call.
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I agree. Plus from what I have read and heard, his coach at UNA had nothing but good to say about him. But it's up to the Cowboys to do their due diligence. That means interviewing him, following up with the coaches and staff to make sure he has turned a new leaf. If he pans out, draft him and reap the benefits of a top CB.
It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed.
-Theodore Roosevelt
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02-09-2012
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#36
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Originally Posted by Frozen700
I never said he hasn't really changed i was just saying stop thinking or assuming he hasn't.
Also you are getting mad at people getting happy that he is saying he has turned a new leaf. At the end of the day what do you expect from him? To say he has not changed?
Overall i believe he has. He got kicked out of Florida, saw his career going down the drain, that is a wake up call.
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I think you made a good point . What did you expect him to say ? With the chance to get a big payday , he is not going to say anything to hurt himself . His behaviour at N.A. goes more in his favor than what he says . Does his words mean that he has changed ? No.
My biggest concern is why should Dallas take the risk ? There is no need to risk it just because a CB is needed .
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02-09-2012
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#37
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Originally Posted by Gaede
Definitely. But just as no one can safely guarantee he has changed, no one can safely guarantee he hasn't. So why not take his word for it?
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DITTO.
Having watched Jenkins his JR year at Florida, I think It's safe to say this guy has all the tools to become one of the top corners in the NFL. Hope Jerry sees it aswell.
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02-09-2012
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#38
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Originally Posted by jnday
I think you made a good point . What did you expect him to say ? With the chance to get a big payday , he is not going to say anything to hurt himself . His behaviour at N.A. goes more in his favor than what he says . Does his words mean that he has changed ? No.
My biggest concern is why should Dallas take the risk ? There is no need to risk it just because a CB is needed .
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Here are a few reasons why: Just look for #41. He won't be hard to find. He's the one getting beat for long receptions and touchdowns.
It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed.
-Theodore Roosevelt
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02-09-2012
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#39
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Originally Posted by JonJon
Here are a few reasons why: Just look for #41. He won't be hard to find. He's the one getting beat for long receptions and touchdowns.
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There are no highlight clips of players sitting at home due to suspentions either. I'm not totally aginst Jenkins, at 14 I think that would be a big risk and frankly I would be willing to take someone else at CB like a Boykin.
Having players you can trust does matter. Tenn knew the risk with Pac Man they took the risk and were burned by him.
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02-09-2012
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#40
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I would be in complete favor in drafting another cb named Jenkins. We need talent in the secondary as we lose people. Janoris is probably the most(maybe second) talented DB in this draft.
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02-09-2012
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#41
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Originally Posted by Doomsday101
There are no highlight clips of players sitting at home due to suspentions either. I'm not totally aginst Jenkins, at 14 I think that would be a big risk and frankly I would be willing to take someone else at CB like a Boykin.
Having players you can trust does matter. Tenn knew the risk with Pac Man they took the risk and were burned by him.
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This is my point as well . Jenkins has the talent , but he also has a history of making dumb mistakes .
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02-09-2012
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#42
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Banned
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonJon
Here are a few reasons why: Just look for #41. He won't be hard to find. He's the one getting beat for long receptions and touchdowns.
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Excuse me, Terence Newman has never been beat for a touchdown and "is our best cornerback," also "he deserves better" and "we won't know what we had until he's gone."
I know so because idgit told me.
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02-09-2012
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#43
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Balotelli
DITTO.
Having watched Jenkins his JR year at Florida, I think It's safe to say this guy has all the tools to become one of the top corners in the NFL. Hope Jerry sees it aswell.
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I agree that he has the tools to be elite , but he has a recent history of stupid mistakes . Sure he is going to say he has changed when faced with losing millions of dollars . What do you think he is going to do after he gets paid ?
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02-09-2012
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#44
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Originally Posted by jnday
I agree that he has the tools to be elite , but he has a recent history of stupid mistakes . Sure he is going to say he has changed when faced with losing millions of dollars . What do you think he is going to do after he gets paid ?
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Buy thousands of pounds of Cocaine. What about you?
Or should I say, Cannabis?
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02-09-2012
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#45
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Injured Reserve
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jnday
I agree that he has the tools to be elite , but he has a recent history of stupid mistakes . Sure he is going to say he has changed when faced with losing millions of dollars . What do you think he is going to do after he gets paid ?
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I don't know....let's ask him.
Scott Wright: When you get your first paycheck what are you going to buy?
Janoris Jenkins: I'm going to buy my mom whatever she wants, whatever she asks for.
There you have it.
It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed.
-Theodore Roosevelt
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