DeCastro at center ?

[ABQcowboyJR]

I'm gonna trust the dollars here. LG is more valuable to the team in every aspect IMO.

[dallasfaniac]

I don't buy it myself. First, the RG gets bailed out all the time because the QB sees the pressure coming unlike blindside hits the LG have to prevent. Second, they generally put TEs to the right side, allowing the OT to help out the RG.

[cowboy_ron]

Originally Posted by dallasfaniac

If it turned out he could run a 4.3 40, would that change anyone's opinions?

The Colts may take him at 1 instead if Luck then

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by ABQcowboyJR

Makes him much more valuable. I tend to doubt he could play center in the NFL though. The question marks about his game would not lend themselves well to playing center. Center has to fight off big tackles with one hand initially. Just something to think about.

be interested in what question marks there are and who claims to see them since every national site does not mention any.

[RoyTheHammer]

Originally Posted by Deep_Freeze

Actually it does increase his value, I love versatility in draft picks. A great center is hard to find, and if he could hold down that spot and we drafted him, I would rather see him at center cause its by far our weakest position pre-free agency.

Steve Hutchinson went 17th as a guard, was the best in the league for years, and still hasn't won anything. If you pick a guard that high, there better be no doubt about him being great.

Center is not by far our weakest position right now. OG is by a landslide. Kowalski or Nagy would make a solid choice at center next year. We don't have even an average OG on the team right now.

[Deep_Freeze]

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

Center is not by far our weakest position right now. OG is by a landslide. Kowalski or Nagy would make a solid choice at center next year. We don't have even an average OG on the team right now.

Well, Costa was graded out as the 2nd worse center in the league, while Holland did grade out as an average guard so the landslide is actually at center. Plus, we did draft 2 guards just last year, while at center we have 2 undrafted guys.

Now whether or not Killer takes the center spot is something we don't know, but with Nagy we might need him at guard depending on how free agency and the draft work out this year. I figure we will probably pick up some short term vet to fill the center spot, but we do need a long term answer to develop also and if DeCastro has that versatility then it does help his cause.

[GloryDaysRBack]

Originally Posted by Deep_Freeze

Well, Costa was graded out as the 2nd worse center in the league, while Holland did grade out as an average guard so the landslide is actually at center. Plus, we did draft 2 guards just last year, while at center we have 2 undrafted guys.

Now whether or not Killer takes the center spot is something we don't know, but with Nagy we might need him at guard depending on how free agency and the draft work out this year. I figure we will probably pick up some short term vet to fill the center spot, but we do need a long term answer to develop also and if DeCastro has that versatility then it does help his cause.

This ^^^

Center need >>>>>> guard need

[burmafrd]

Costa is at best a backup.
Nagy may be too small for guard but a possibility at center
Arkin appears to only need building up according to our coaches (same guys who said that about Brewster, etc so does not fill me with optimism) but since he did not play much at all last season you have to wonder.

Romo almost ended up the year on a slab because the interior of our line sucked so bad.

To hope those scrubs get better and take that chance again is the absolute height of stupidity.

We need at least ONE blue chip FA or Draft pick in the middle.

Killer MIGHT make a good center but once again we do not know and do we dare take a chance on him?

Now if Decastro can play both guard and center then frankly his value goes even higher for us.

I think Holland can probably be decent for another year. Kosier looks to be pretty much done and good only as a backup. So right now we really do not have more than one of three positions that at THIS time we can feel any confidence at all that it will be competently manned.

[newlander]

Originally Posted by dallasfaniac

If it turned out he could run a 4.3 40, would that change anyone's opinions?

....he just ran a 5.34 and a 5.47 ...but he's a friggin' stud and a LOAD so: not worried about it. (best 40 time so far by olineman has been 4.91 by Adam Gettis...........interestingly: Cordy GLenn ran a 4.96....that's pretty damn good for a 345 lb. man!)

[newlander]

Originally Posted by CowboyHawg2012

DeCastro is a guard, no putting him elsewhere. What i am intrigued about now is can we target someone later to help the center position. Im kinda becoming a big fan of David Molk from Michigan. He had turmoil throughout his career but really played well this past year under Hoke. faced some pretty stout defenses, yet still managed to open up holes for Shoelace to run. Hoke runs a pro style offense, and he only had 1 year in it, its still better tha guys coming strictly from the spread. He could be 4/5 ruonder

..he struggled against GOOD interior big ten lines throughout his career: had a good senior year but again, did nothing in losses to Michigan State and Iowa(wisconsin wasn't on their schedule).....pass

[ThreeandOut]

Originally Posted by newlander

....he just ran a 5.34 and a 5.47 ...but he's a friggin' stud and a LOAD so: not worried about it. (best 40 time so far by olineman has been 4.91 by Adam Gettis...........interestingly: Cordy GLenn ran a 4.96....that's pretty damn good for a 345 lb. man!)

Glenn made himself a lot of money this morning.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by dallasfaniac

Are you referring solely to punt/kick formations?

Has to be because zero tech is not illegal in the NFL except on Punt Formation so far as I know.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

be interested in what question marks there are and who claims to see them since every national site does not mention any.

They are out there. You just have to look. Some believe that he does not anchor as well as he should and he does not slide step well, especially when locked up. They say that he gets overpowered and loses balence in those situations. I don't know if that's true but I also have read the same kinds of things. No prospect is perfect. DeCastro is an excellent prospect, any fool can see this but, it's dangerous to buy into the idea that he is far and away the best in however many years with no weaknesses.

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

They are out there. You just have to look. Some believe that he does not anchor as well as he should and he does not slide step well, especially when locked up. They say that he gets overpowered and loses balence in those situations. I don't know if that's true but I also have read the same kinds of things. No prospect is perfect. DeCastro is an excellent prospect, any fool can see this but, it's dangerous to buy into the idea that he is far and away the best in however many years with no weaknesses.

This is when you have to figure out who knows what they are looking at and who is just giving an uninformed opinion.

Goose does not know crap himself but he gets his data from GM's and coaches.

Most of the scout sites are done by people who frankly are not very credible.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

This is when you have to figure out who knows what they are looking at and who is just giving an uninformed opinion.

Goose does not know crap himself but he gets his data from GM's and coaches.

Most of the scout sites are done by people who frankly are not very credible.

Well, I'm going to step out on a ledge here and say without any doubt that it is we who don't know and they who do. They do it for a living. We post on a board.