Konz dropping?

[RS12]

Originally Posted by SDogo

As I said, I have had him and Konz in reverse position all along. I believe Konz is ranked 1 or 2 rounds too high.

So your guys telling you the Cowboys like Blake that much?

[SDogo]

Originally Posted by RS12

So your guys telling you the Cowboys like Blake that much?

nah, has nothing to do with the Cowboys interests.

The Cowboys have their eye on several centers this year.

They have focused on OC since they lost out on Max Unger in 2009. They have actually tried to make a run at one each of the past 3 seasons but have either been jumped or failed to finalize a move to get one.

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by jnday

With a bad showing at the combine , will Konz drop ? He had 18 reps on the bench , but this was blamed on a pulled muscle .
If he dropped in the second , and his lung condition is okay , would you draft him?
What if Dallas drafted DeCastro in the first ? Would you still draft him ?

I wouldn't draft him in the first, just because of the blood clot issues, but if he's still on the board at pick 45, yeah, I'd take a chance there...

I'm glad to know the disappointing bench press number is the result of an injury (assuming of course that's not just a copout)...

[Hoofbite]

Originally Posted by SDogo

I don't pick him before the 3rd and that was before the poor showing in the combine. I don't like his medical history and I don't like the way he moves. I also have an issue with his height and being able to dig under NT's and bigger DL in the NFL.

I think this is a biggie.

I'm not sure I'd go 3rd. It'd be tempting because his talent is obviously higher than a 3rd but that is a potentially big medical issue.

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by SDogo

nah, has nothing to do with the Cowboys interests.

The Cowboys have their eye on several centers this year.

Any names to share with us??

Beyond the usual suspects-- Ben Jones, Philip Blake, Mike Brewster, Peter Konz-- I'm curious to know if they've shown any interest in any of these late round/undrafted type centers:

Mason Cloy, Clemson... 6-3, 310 lbs., 5.2 second 40...

Scott Wedige, Northern Illinois... 6-4, 305 lbs., 5.25 second 40...

Moe Petrus, Connecticut... 6-2, 300 lbs., 5.05 second 40... kind of reminds me of Kowalski...

T-Bob Hebert, LSU... 6-3, 305 lbs., 5.25 second 40...

Rodney Austin, Elon...6-3, 310 lbs., 5.15 second 40...

Seth Oxner, Arkansas-Monticello... 6-4, 305 lbs., 5.2 second 40...

Cam Holland, North Carolina... 6-3, 320 lbs., 5.25 second 40...

Of that group, for assorted reasons I'm particularly intrigued by Cloy, Wedige and Austin...

[dallasfaniac]

I don't like my centers as tall as Konz or Brewster, I just think they give up too much leverage.

[jobberone]

Originally Posted by dallasfaniac

I don't like my centers as tall as Konz or Brewster, I just think they give up too much leverage.

Some are able to play with leverage at 6-5 but many don't. I've worried about his ability to play downfield. I didn't see him at the combine but I trust SDogo's opinion. Hos said they were interested in Blake but everything I read was low rounds.

[Tex]

If he fell to 45 I would take him in a heartbeat.

Tex

[SDogo]

Originally Posted by silverbear

Any names to share with us??

Beyond the usual suspects-- Ben Jones, Philip Blake, Mike Brewster, Peter Konz-- I'm curious to know if they've shown any interest in any of these late round/undrafted type centers:

Mason Cloy, Clemson... 6-3, 310 lbs., 5.2 second 40...

Scott Wedige, Northern Illinois... 6-4, 305 lbs., 5.25 second 40...

Moe Petrus, Connecticut... 6-2, 300 lbs., 5.05 second 40... kind of reminds me of Kowalski...

T-Bob Hebert, LSU... 6-3, 305 lbs., 5.25 second 40...

Rodney Austin, Elon...6-3, 310 lbs., 5.15 second 40...

Seth Oxner, Arkansas-Monticello... 6-4, 305 lbs., 5.2 second 40...

Cam Holland, North Carolina... 6-3, 320 lbs., 5.25 second 40...

Of that group, for assorted reasons I'm particularly intrigued by Cloy, Wedige and Austin...

I'm hesitant to say I'll be updating my FA and Draft thread soon because it still may be 2 weeks before I'm ready but Moe Petrus is one player they do like. Honestly I have heard nothing about the others on your list as they pertain to the Cowboys.

[Prossman]

Konz is the only center considered a day one starter. Watching film on the guy shows he is flat out dominant at the point of attack. The guy is a beast. Now as far as his bench, i dont know if he was hurt or not, id assume he was. Blake is a solid guy and we could do far worse than drafting him, but..
Blake is no where near as dominant as Konz on film. The combine is a good place to comfirm what you think about a player but beware of the champions of the underwear olympics cause you dont play football in shirts and shorts. ( unless wade phillips is ur coach )

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by GloryDaysRBack

Lmfao! Every draftnik in the world has him as the #1 rated center and a 5 liner on a message board convinces you not to draft him at all

well actually many have doubts; but then you appear to never have any. Sort of like Jerruh.

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by Prossman

Konz is the only center considered a day one starter. Watching film on the guy shows he is flat out dominant at the point of attack. The guy is a beast. Now as far as his bench, i dont know if he was hurt or not, id assume he was. Blake is a solid guy and we could do far worse than drafting him, but..
Blake is no where near as dominant as Konz on film. The combine is a good place to comfirm what you think about a player but beware of the champions of the underwear olympics cause you dont play football in shirts and shorts. ( unless wade phillips is ur coach )

Actually he is not a beast. He was considered the best center this year but I watched him in multiple games and frankly he is good and a probable starter but that is all. This year there is a fairly weak class of centers if you want standouts.

[johnnyd]

I still want a vet center (even if a 30+ year old guy) especially if we draft decastro. I want a veteran out there making calls and helping this young line grow sort of taking on the role that Kosier played last year.

[GloryDaysRBack]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

well actually many have doubts; but then you appear to never have any. Sort of like Jerruh.

Lmao...find me one person who has taken Konz off their board so to speak...all these medical red flags around here for Konz continue to be nothing but nonsense...it's only a big deal in fantasy land here at cz

[GloryDaysRBack]

Originally Posted by Prossman

Konz is the only center considered a day one starter. Watching film on the guy shows he is flat out dominant at the point of attack. The guy is a beast. Now as far as his bench, i dont know if he was hurt or not, id assume he was. Blake is a solid guy and we could do far worse than drafting him, but..
Blake is no where near as dominant as Konz on film. The combine is a good place to comfirm what you think about a player but beware of the champions of the underwear olympics cause you dont play football in shirts and shorts. ( unless wade phillips is ur coach )

This guy get is. Kudos