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Old 02-26-2012   #16
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No question the guy has very good accuracy.

The TD to INT ratio isn't glowing.

And his YPA is low compared to his excellent completion percentage which could indicate a lot of check-downs.

But the lack of mobility is a deal-breaker for me.
So you'd pass on Dan Marino then?

57.7 completion percentage, 74 TDs, 64 INTs, and 7905 passing yards in his college career. Less mobility than Foles.
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Mobility is over rated...just look at Eli Manning.
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Mobility is over rated...just look at Eli Manning.
Dan Fouts, Warren Moon, Dan Marino, Peyton Manning...
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They quoted it on NFL network about a half hour ago, and said RG3 was second to him. Now I do agree with you, I didn't think he ran at the combine, but NFLN did quote the number and I don't know their source.

It is interesting in that posted link it does say 4.33 at the combine underneath the 4.36 at rookie camp.
Hmm, I know for a fact vick didn't run at the combine, but I couldn't find any of his proday numbers. I wouldn't doubt that vick ran a 4.3 something but I was just curious what he actually runs.
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Dan Fouts, Warren Moon, Dan Marino, Peyton Manning...

As in Eli Manning is not very mobile yet he has 2 SB rings.
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As in Eli Manning is not very mobile yet he has 2 SB rings.
They weren't mobile either. Their teams were contenders almost every year.
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I could run a 4.3 at the Virginia Tech track
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So you'd pass on Dan Marino then?

57.7 completion percentage, 74 TDs, 64 INTs, and 7905 passing yards in his college career. Less mobility than Foles.
So Foles is now Dan Marino because of a stat sheet?
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Tehy weren't mobile either. Their teams were contenders almost every year.

Ah ok I thought you were saying the opposite, anyways I actually like RG3 because of his parents background. A military man myself I know he is a well rounded kid and will be a star in the NFL.

Also some people seemed a little surprised about RG3s 40 but he was a track star so he knows how to properly start off and run a 40 moreso than the average football player.
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So Foles is now Dan Marino because of a stat sheet?
I said he was Dan Marino II?

Does the mention of a name mean you have to assume a comparison? How sad if true.
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Ah ok I thought you were saying the opposite, anyways I actually like RG3 because of his parents background. A military man myself I know he is a well rounded kid and will be a star in the NFL.

Also some people seemed a little surprised about RG3s 40 but he was a track star so he knows how to properly start off and run a 40 moreso than the average football player.
My comments are nothing against Griffin. In fact, Dawgs0916 knows RGIII personally and can tell you that I have liked him from the word go. Had he not had a meteoric rise I would want him in this draft.
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I said he was Dan Marino II?

Does the mention of a name mean you have to assume a comparison? How sad if true.
"Less mobility than Foles" is a comparison. There is no assumption on my part.
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I still don't understand why they don't do these drills in pads. In what game scenario is Griffin ever going to elude a pass rusher, while scrambling around in tights and no pads?
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I still don't understand why they don't do these drills in pads. In what game scenario is Griffin ever going to elude a pass rusher, while scrambling around in tights and no pads?
They've all played tons of games in pads. Evaluators that need to see them do the broad jump in pads need to get off their lazy butts and watch some tape.

Plus then you gotta start policing pads, because you know they will all look for an edge.
We need wins, and that's all we need. I don't give a damn about anyone on this roster over wins. I'd trade Ware, Lee and Dez if it meant more wins.
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"Less mobility than Foles" is a comparison. There is no assumption on my part.
No, it was a response to his commentary on stats.

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