Konz dropping?

[SDogo]

Originally Posted by Prossman

Konz is the only center considered a day one starter. Watching film on the guy shows he is flat out dominant at the point of attack. The guy is a beast. Now as far as his bench, i dont know if he was hurt or not, id assume he was. Blake is a solid guy and we could do far worse than drafting him, but..
Blake is no where near as dominant as Konz on film. The combine is a good place to comfirm what you think about a player but beware of the champions of the underwear olympics cause you dont play football in shirts and shorts. ( unless wade phillips is ur coach )

Konz is considered by many the best OC in a VERY weak class but it's not the consensus he is a day 1 starter. This is a horrible class of Centers and in even a average class he would likely carry no more then a 2nd to 3rd round grade. He is living off the hype of Wisconsin lineman and he was no where near as dominant against top notch competition as you want. Blake on the other hand excelled against top level prospects.

They both have their weaknesses but Konz is GREATLY over valued at this point.

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by GloryDaysRBack

Lmao...find me one person who has taken Konz off their board so to speak...all these medical red flags around here for Konz continue to be nothing but nonsense...it's only a big deal in fantasy land here at cz

and if he is not drafted until the fourth will you admit you were full of it?

Not that you ever have

[rash]

Originally Posted by SDogo

Konz is considered by many the best OC in a VERY weak class but it's not the consensus he is a day 1 starter. This is a horrible class of Centers and in even a average class he would likely carry no more then a 2nd to 3rd round grade. He is living off the hype of Wisconsin lineman and he was no where near as dominant against top notch competition as you want. Blake on the other hand excelled against top level prospects.

They both have their weaknesses but Konz is GREATLY over valued at this point.

I agree with everything you've said, but let's say Konz slips to the 3rd. Wouldn't you take him over LaMichael James at that point?

[SDogo]

Originally Posted by rash

I agree with everything you've said, but let's say Konz slips to the 3rd. Wouldn't you take him over LaMichael James at that point?

Good question.

You have me thinking.

[visionary]

Originally Posted by rash

I agree with everything you've said, but let's say Konz slips to the 3rd. Wouldn't you take him over LaMichael James at that point?

nope

because i would be too busy taking vinny curry instead

[GloryDaysRBack]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

and if he is not drafted until the fourth will you admit you were full of it?

Not that you ever have

Listen closely bumfard, find me one post where I adamantly made a prediction and was proven wrong and wast man enough to admit it. Second of all, if Konz does fall to the 4th I will admit I was wrong.

You want to bet Konz doesn't fall to the 4th? Put yor money where yor mouth is tough guy!


Watch the silence as this clown backs off

[Teague31]

i would rather try for blake in the 4th than konz in the second.

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by SDogo

I'm hesitant to say I'll be updating my FA and Draft thread soon because it still may be 2 weeks before I'm ready but Moe Petrus is one player they do like. Honestly I have heard nothing about the others on your list as they pertain to the Cowboys.

Petrus, eh??

Well, he certainly fits that agile profile that Garrett supposedly likes... he seems a little smallish, though, would you know what the scouts have to say regarding his growth potential??

[garyv]

makes me nervous on Konz there is no way @ #14.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by Teague31

i would rather try for blake in the 4th than konz in the second.

You're assuming Blake will be there in the 4th. If you're waiting till the 4th and then Blake is gone, what then?

I'm not saying we should definitely draft Konz, but the idea that we should "wait for _____" is an optimistic was to approach the draft.

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by TheCount

You're assuming Blake will be there in the 4th. If you're waiting till the 4th and then Blake is gone, what then?

I'm not saying we should definitely draft Konz, but the idea that we should "wait for _____" is an optimistic was to approach the draft.

trade down and take Blake in the late 3rd.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

trade down and take Blake in the late 3rd.

It's an idea, but impossible to really suggest anything like trading up or down without seeing how the draft plays out. I'm not a big fan of trading down unless you're getting greater value going forward (i.e. trading a 2nd for a 1st next year).

Outside of that, I'd have know I'm still getting the guy I want even if I trade down, not passing on a guy higher on the board to take a lower guy all for the sake of a few lower picks.