2012 Salary Cap Update Post #107 - (08/21/2012) -- $5,137,214 under

[Blue Eyed Devil]

anyone can make a mistake and I've never seen this reported anywhere else.

[AdamJT13]

Originally Posted by Blue Eyed Devil

Wait, are you sure this is this true?

I thought the 2011-2012 year was the only year you could move cap space.

Teams have been able to carry over cap room every year there has been a cap. Before the new CBA, they did it by exploiting the LTBE loophole. The new CBA made it possible just by sending the league a letter --

(v) Carrying Over Room. A Club may “carry over” Room from one League Year to the following League Year by submitting notice in writing signed by the owner to the NFL no later than fourteen (14) days prior to the start of the next League Year indicating the maximum amount of Room that the Club wishes to carry over. The NFL shall promptly provide a copy of any such notice to the NFLPA. The amount of Room carried over will be adjusted downward based on the final Room available after the year-end reconciliation.

[Blue Eyed Devil]

That's crazy. Is the amount limited in any way? If a team has 60 million in cap space one year can they carry the whole thing over and just buy every free agent they want to build an uber-team?

[AdamJT13]

Originally Posted by Blue Eyed Devil

That's crazy. Is the amount limited in any way? If a team has 60 million in cap space one year can they carry the whole thing over and just buy every free agent they want to build an uber-team?

That would be legal, if a team could manage to do it.

Of course, if we did it, the league probably would punish us for upsetting the league's competitive balance.

[TwentyOne]

Originally Posted by AdamJT13

The cap penalty is included.

Our adjusted salary cap is $133,786,426, which includes $17,132,826 of cap room carried over from last year, $1,500,000 of cap room borrowed from the future, the minus-$5,000,000 penalty and minus-$446,400 in miscellaneous adjustments from previous seasons.

..$120,600,000
+$..17,132,826
+$...1,500,000
-$....5,000,000
-$......446,400
---------------
=$133,786,426

.

Thanks Adam.

[esmith1790]

This is an ADAM question but i am sure others are just as smart.

I see lots of contract breakdowns since the recent signings.

I see some have a big signing bonus, like 5 million plus. THen i see that the 1st year is fully guaranteed.

So my question is, if a veteran is on the roster week #1, his salary is guaranteed for the year anyways right?

I also serious doubt they would cut a player before the start of the week#1 if they just gave a huge signing bonus to.

So be default wouldnt the 1st year salaray be fully guaranteed no matter what? Why state the obvious is my question.

just might as well say that ROMO's and WARE's contract is guaranteed for 2012 also. Not like the cowboys are going to cut them this season.

[cowboyjoe]

Originally Posted by AdamJT13

Teams have to be under the cap every day of that league year. The 2012 league year began this week.

Then, I am confused Adam, way back I remember reading best I remember that the Skins, 49ers were over the cap by so much like in November and December and they had to adjust to get under later.

So, why werent those teams punished for being over?

I think at one time I read somewhere to the Giants were over to sometime during the season and they had to adjust to get under the cap, but these teams didnt get under the cap that day they were over, but later.

Why werent they punished for competitive imbalance?

[cowboyjoe]

Originally Posted by AdamJT13

That would be legal, if a team could manage to do it.

Of course, if we did it, the league probably would punish us for upsetting the league's competitive balance.

Totally agree Adam about the league trying to punish us if we did that. Cotton Picking John Mara, I cant wait till his team gets in trouble. As old saying what goes around comes around, or what you dish out, most of the time comes back to you in spades.

I bet if the Skins GM one day gets to be Head Chairman of the Competition Committee that the Giants will get punished some way one day.

Got another question for someone, as you know the competition committee best I read, voted without a vote for all teams owners or GMs. Isnt Stephen Jones on that competition committee? Couldnt he have called for a vote by all teams?

Or was this also done without the whole competition committee being there, just John Mara pushing it down DeSmith face on NFLPA, and whimp noodle Goodell agreed to this:

Oh, im starting to get ticked off again.

[AdamJT13]

Originally Posted by cowboyjoe

Then, I am confused Adam, way back I remember reading best I remember that the Skins, 49ers were over the cap by so much like in November and December and they had to adjust to get under later.

So, why werent those teams punished for being over?

I think at one time I read somewhere to the Giants were over to sometime during the season and they had to adjust to get under the cap, but these teams didnt get under the cap that day they were over, but later.

Why werent they punished for competitive imbalance?

The Skins and 49ers were never close to the cap in November or December.

The league won't approve contracts if they would put a team over the cap. At most, a team might be able to sign a player, then have until the end of the next business day at the league office to make a move to put them under the cap. There are certain instances when cutting a player might temporarily put a team over the cap, and the team is given seven days to get under the cap, but the team can't sign anyone until it is under the cap -- not even someone to replace the player who was cut.

Teams can be over a future cap before that league year begins. So, for example, the Raiders and Cardinals could be over this year's cap before the league year began. They had to cut players or restructure contracts to get under the cap before the league year began, however.

[Blue Eyed Devil]

So Adam, what are we looking like in 2013? These new contracts seem to be a lot heavier in 2013 plus we have the restructued contracts pushing back money and aren't Romo's, Ware's, and Austin's contracts going to jump next year?

I'm glad we're getting a lot of new players but have we mortgaged next year's free agency period to get them?

[speedkilz88]

I got a question Adam.

I know you originally thought it best to push the NFL "fine" into 2013, but if the Cowboys decided to add as much cap room in 2012 by basic restructuring (Ware, Romo, etc) and extending Spencer and possibly others. Would it be possible to have the NFL to go and subtract the rest of the "fine" this year so that they could have it off the books in 2013? Or with the ability to push money into next year anyway is that moot?

[cowboyjoe]

Originally Posted by AdamJT13

The Skins and 49ers were never close to the cap in November or December.

The league won't approve contracts if they would put a team over the cap. At most, a team might be able to sign a player, then have until the end of the next business day at the league office to make a move to put them under the cap. There are certain instances when cutting a player might temporarily put a team over the cap, and the team is given seven days to get under the cap, but the team can't sign anyone until it is under the cap -- not even someone to replace the player who was cut.

Teams can be over a future cap before that league year begins. So, for example, the Raiders and Cardinals could be over this year's cap before the league year began. They had to cut players or restructure contracts to get under the cap before the league year began, however.

Thanks Adam, not I understand.

[Wulfman]

Originally Posted by speedkilz88

I got a question Adam.

I know you originally thought it best to push the NFL "fine" into 2013, but if the Cowboys decided to add as much cap room in 2012 by basic restructuring (Ware, Romo, etc) and extending Spencer and possibly others. Would it be possible to have the NFL to go and subtract the rest of the "fine" this year so that they could have it off the books in 2013? Or with the ability to push money into next year anyway is that moot?

Adam will certainly correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's a moot point specifically because the $5 mil could get carried forward to next year's cap anyway. By not doing it now, though, they leave themselves the leeway of using those resources this year, should it become necessary due to injury or because they want to do one of those mid-year extensions (Jason Witten, for example).

I am also pretty sure I read that the decision has already been made to go $5 mil in each year, and my guess is that it's on the books at the league office that way. If that's the case, it likely wouldn't be subject to change.

[Temo]

Originally Posted by Blue Eyed Devil

That's crazy. Is the amount limited in any way? If a team has 60 million in cap space one year can they carry the whole thing over and just buy every free agent they want to build an uber-team?

Well the new CBA has minimum spending limits.

[AdamJT13]

Originally Posted by Temo

Well the new CBA has minimum spending limits.

The minimum spending requirements for individual teams are only for the combined spending during two four-year periods -- 2013-2016 and 2017-2020. It would be easy for a team to vastly underspend for a year or two, then go crazy one year. I'm not sure whether that team would gain an advantage in the long run, however.