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04-03-2012
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My Ideal Mock 2.0
1st Round - Stephon Gilmore - CB
2nd Round - Peter Konz - C
2nd Round - Bruce Irvin - OLB
4th Round - Greg Childs - WR
4th Round - Ron Brooks - CB
5th Round - Ryan Broyles - WR
6th Round - TJ Barnes - DT
7th Round - Nick Provo - TE
Trade Jenkins and our 3rd round pick for an early additional 2nd rounder.
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04-03-2012
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Konz is the only O-line depth we were able to manage with all those picks? 2 WRs? I'm not sure I understand.
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I don't think Dez is a #1 receiver and I think Miles is a #3. Signing Bearnadeau and Livings provides average depth and drafting Konz, with Tyron Smith already there, provides a much stronger O-Line. I chose based on BPA for each round and not on need. Those receivers seem to be extremely strong options. Also, I would have preferred to have another defensive player, preferably a DT or DE, but I didn't read about one that I thought was a stand out player.
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04-03-2012
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The websites I used were Drafttek, Sideline Scouting, and Draft Insider. And the first 3 - 4 picks I've read about and compared them with other players for the past few months.
I don't like the idea of drafting where you need someone. So you should waste a draft pick on someone who is okay at their position because you need them? I'd rather draft someone with a whole lot of potential to be an impact player.
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04-03-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by a_minimalist
1st Round - Stephon Gilmore - CB
2nd Round - Peter Konz - C
2nd Round - Bruce Irvin - OLB
4th Round - Greg Childs - WR
4th Round - Ron Brooks - CB
5th Round - Ryan Broyles - WR
6th Round - TJ Barnes - DT
7th Round - Nick Provo - TE
Trade Jenkins and our 3rd round pick for an early additional 2nd rounder.
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Jenkins cannot be traded.
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04-03-2012
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Why not?
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04-03-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by a_minimalist
Why not?
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He's injured and cannot pass a physical until late summer, at the earliest. No GM will accept a trade with a player under this circumstance.
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04-03-2012
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Oh okay, I didn't know that was in ink.
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04-03-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by a_minimalist
Oh okay, I didn't know that was in ink.
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Not in ink, just common sense. Worst case scenario, you trade for Jenkins and his shoulder never heals. GMs will never take that risk, as remote as it may be.
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I'm following you. I was mainly referring to the healing time.
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04-03-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M'Kevon
Not in ink, just common sense. Worst case scenario, you trade for Jenkins and his shoulder never heals. GMs will never take that risk, as remote as it may be.
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Forget that part, even though it's obvious. The biggest reason is that the team's insurance policy holder won't take him. That's why players take physicals no matter if they're healthy or not. Any team taking Jenkins would have to assume the risk until he can pass the physical and it's allowed to be put under the team's coverage. It " shouldn't " be a big deal because Jenkins injury is not career threatening, but he's not an All Pro that teams would be willing to take that risk anyways.
Originally Posted by Chuck 54:
" Everything in the NFL has an element of talent and a dose of good fortune and timing. "
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04-03-2012
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A Love Supreme
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Quote:
Originally Posted by a_minimalist
I'm following you. I was mainly referring to the healing time.
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No problem.
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04-03-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy White
Forget that part, even though it's obvious. The biggest reason is that the team's insurance policy holder won't take him. That's why players take physicals no matter if they're healthy or not. Any team taking Jenkins would have to assume the risk until he can pass the physical and it's allowed to be put under the team's coverage. It " shouldn't " be a big deal because Jenkins injury is not career threatening, but he's not an All Pro that teams would be willing to take that risk anyways.
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Insurance issues would be a good legal reason, but no GM is going to accept a player coming off major surgery w/o a clean bill of health, All Pro or not. The downside likely means your job.
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04-03-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M'Kevon
Insurance issues would be a good legal reason, but no GM is going to accept a player coming off major surgery w/o a clean bill of health, All Pro or not. The downside likely means your job.
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That depends on the situation and the player. If it's a common football injury that players normally recover from, the price is right, and the player is worth it, they'd probably take the gamble, but those are alot of " ifs ". In a scenario like the one proposed with Jenkins, it's not that big of a deal because they're talking about moving down in the draft as oppossed to dealing the pick outright. It's not necessarily a job killer. Still, even if Jenkins was healthy, I doubt they'd do it anyways, so is a moot point.
Originally Posted by Chuck 54:
" Everything in the NFL has an element of talent and a dose of good fortune and timing. "
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