PFW's exclusive draft value chart

[Hoofbite]

The cool part about the draft is that many teams could be giving feedback about a player that makes it seem like he should go later.

I don't think McClellan lasts until the 3rd round at all.

Mayock was saying a team could be perfectly fine taking him at the end of round 1.

[RamziD]

Boy, you can just see JJ working the phones to trade back in the second and get an extra pick. I think the goal would be to draft Bruce Irvin at the end of Rd. 2 and pick up a late 3rd in the process.

Edit: And it that scenario, I would be fine wit Barron, Irvin, Broyles, and Blake in the top 3 rounds.

[Leadbelly]

I hunted down their 2011's chart...

http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...-value-chart-4

They had a few big misses but it's pretty accurate. I was expecting to be able to tear it down.

When they miss in round 1 or 2, it's usually just by the next tier (1B vs 1C). By round 3, it is more like 2 tiers (3C vs 4B). In the first two rounds, here were the only misses greater than 1 tier...

MOVED UP - 10
Christian Ponder went 1B vs 2A
James Carpenter went 1C vs 2B

Colin Kaepernick went 2A vs 3A
Brooks Reed went 2A vs 3A
Bruce Carter went 2A vs 2C
Ben Ijalana went 2B vs 3C
Stefen Wisniewski went 2B vs 4C
Orlando Franklin went 2B vs 3B
Marcus Gilchrist went 2B vs 3C
Jonas Mouton went 2C vs unlisted


MOVED DOWN - 9
Aaron Williams went 2A vs 1B
Da'Quan Bowers went 2B vs 1C
Stephen Paea went 2B vs 1C
Randall Cobb went 2C vs 2A

Allen Bailey went 3C vs 2C
Johnny Patrick went 3C vs 2C
Christian Ballard went 4A vs 2A
Clint Boling went 4A vs 2C
Dion Lewis went 5B vs 2C


A few guys dropped big and I didn't count them -- late drug concern (justin houston), or there was a medical issue (marcus cannon and virgil green). Pretty dang accurate. By Day 3, it becomes very hit or miss.

Assuming their sources are similar in 2012, it seems plausible that McClellin can jump up to 2C...maybe 2B...but jumping to 1C would be a shocker. Small sample size, but PFW was very accurate for round 1 in 2011.

[funkytown]

Originally Posted by Leadbelly

Assuming their sources are similar in 2012, it seems plausible that McClellin can jump up to 2C...maybe 2B...but jumping to 1C would be a shocker. Small sample size, but PFW was very accurate for round 1 in 2011.

I'm sure they will publish another one much closer to the draft. I expect that one to be as accurate as last years.

[SDogo]

Originally Posted by Leadbelly

I hunted down their 2011's chart...

http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...-value-chart-4

They had a few big misses but it's pretty accurate. I was expecting to be able to tear it down.

When they miss in round 1 or 2, it's usually just by the next tier (1B vs 1C). By round 3, it is more like 2 tiers (3C vs 4B). In the first two rounds, here were the only misses greater than 1 tier...

MOVED UP - 10
Christian Ponder went 1B vs 2A
James Carpenter went 1C vs 2B

Colin Kaepernick went 2A vs 3A
Brooks Reed went 2A vs 3A
Bruce Carter went 2A vs 2C
Ben Ijalana went 2B vs 3C
Stefen Wisniewski went 2B vs 4C
Orlando Franklin went 2B vs 3B
Marcus Gilchrist went 2B vs 3C
Jonas Mouton went 2C vs unlisted


[View Full Quote]MOVED DOWN - 9
Aaron Williams went 2A vs 1B
Da'Quan Bowers went 2B vs 1C
Stephen Paea went 2B vs 1C
Randall Cobb went 2C vs 2A

Allen Bailey went 3C vs 2C
Johnny Patrick went 3C vs 2C
Christian Ballard went 4A vs 2A
Clint Boling went 4A vs 2C
Dion Lewis went 5B vs 2C


A few guys dropped big and I didn't count them -- late drug concern (justin houston), or there was a medical issue (marcus cannon and virgil green). Pretty dang accurate. By Day 3, it becomes very hit or miss.

Assuming their sources are similar in 2012, it seems plausible that McClellin can jump up to 2C...maybe 2B...but jumping to 1C would be a shocker. Small sample size, but PFW was very accurate for round 1 in 2011.

There is a reason I have been saying in previous posts to keep an eye on this kid running the draft room over there. If everything goes as planned he is on the fast track to a NFL FO, seriously could be looking at the NFL's version of Theo Epstein

[Hoofbite]

Originally Posted by SDogo

There is a reason I have been saying in previous posts to keep an eye on this kid running the draft room over there. If everything goes as planned he is on the fast track to a NFL FO, seriously could be looking at the NFL's version of Theo Epstein

Isn't he just compiling the feelings around the league?

[SDogo]

Originally Posted by Hoofbite

Isn't he just compiling the feelings around the league?

He does, he is well connected but the scouting reports for the most part are all his own work and if you look at their rankings and grading scales those are done as the process unfolds. Really there are only a few slight changes from what I have seen between this board they released and what they have been giving out up to this release.

They did some obvious adjustments on a few players from what I can tell but for the most part if this board is what they say it is and a compiling on information then they have done a hell of a job keeping pace.

[jterrell]

very cool tool as we look at guys.

anytime you have a consensus value some players will go higher and others will fall. just the way the dominoes fall come draft day.