Meshugga Mock?

[Rockytop6]

Originally Posted by BAT

Cowboys don't have any problems drafting "knuckleheads" if there is value. Coples is a top 10 talent and if he is there at 14 then Cowboys will pounce. Just like when Cowboys pounced all over Dez Bryant.

Bryant dropped because of character concerns as well.

Yet when Bryant was on the field he gave 110%. Coples doesn't.

[cbow44]

Charlie Casserly says Coples was misused by his new coaching staff. They tried to use him head up on the tackle and read and react. He thinks Coples is more of a penetrating type player that can disrupt. He said he didnt think Coples was a top 10 player but that he liked him.

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by DBOY3141

Coples is garbage as a person. Lazy and not motivated. No way we touch him.

Well, at least you gave him a shot before deciding, anyway.

I will say, he sounds either slow or drugged out in the few interviews I've heard from him. Pretty strange cat.

EDIT: Here's a Coples video from another thread.

[BAT]

Originally Posted by Rockytop6

Yet when Bryant was on the field he gave 110%. Coples doesn't.

The guy put up more than 17 sacks in 2 seasons under 2 different coaches, 2 different defenses and at 2 very different positions.

Can u imagine what he can do with a coach who knows how use him? y

[BAT]

Originally Posted by DBOY3141

Coples is garbage as a person. Lazy and not motivated. No way we touch him.

Would love to get Silatolu, but rumor has it that Steelers may take him in the 1st. Don't think he makes it to 45.

No way I spend a 4th on a defensive player and try and make him a TE.

Thompson also had 8 sacks as a 4-3 DE. He has the athleticism to play 3-4 MLB so win win.

[BAT]

Originally Posted by Rockytop6

I didn't know Coples had character (drugs, immorality, attitude, etc,) concerns, but that he is not dependable on the field. He has ability and potential but he doesn't have production. I want somebody dependable when I go to war. It is like the old saying that a "man who won't read is no better off than one who can't read." A man who won't use his God given talents is no better off than a person who don't have those abilities - on the field.

Coples is probably the most talented non skill position player in the draft. Yet his production is barely above average according to what I read. I'll take the person with a little less ability who has the tenacity and determination where he will not be denied and will not be defeated over the entitlement people any day.

Not sure what character issues you are referring to? He certainly does not have drug or immorality (?) issues. And what do you mean he was not productive?

He was the most productive DE/DT in this draft. People simply expected him to have another double digit sack season (he had 7.5) in 2011, even though he lost his HC and the new coaching staff not only moved him to a new position, but did not use him properly.

[Leadbelly]

Originally Posted by BAT

Definition of insanity, right? But I love my first 3 picks. If Silatolu not there at 45, Irvin has to be the pick. Even over Konz. Then draft the bigger more athletic OG, Brandon Brooks, with 81.


1st (14) - Quinton Coples, DE, North Carlonia, 6'6 285 4.78
*Butch had Jerry & Jason's ear w/Bruce Carter & Coples is better

2nd (45) - Aminu Silatolu, OG, Midwestern State, 6'4 315 5.34
*Could be best OL in entire draft

3rd (81) - Bruce Irvin, OLB, West Virginia, 6'3 245 4.49
*Cowboys may have to trade up to make this happen

4th (113) - Brandin Hardin, FS/CB, Oregon State, 6'3 220 4.43
*Prefer Markelle Martin (likely not available) but Hardin is bigger & faster

4th (135) - Taylor Thompson, TE/OLB, Southern Methodist, 6'6 260 4.57
*2 for 1 player, good pass rusher but may be an even better TE - on Cowboys radar

[View Full Quote]5th (152) - T.Y. Hilton, KR/Slot, Florida International, 5'11 190 4.37
*Not just a speed merchant, good hands & productive to boot

6th (186) - Chris Greenwood, CB, Albion, 6'1 195 4.34
*Jerome Henderson loves this guy

7th (222) - Chandler Burden, OT/OG, Kentucky, 6'4 315 4.95
*Brings nastiness of D player (converted DL) & can play inside or outside

Really love the first three picks. Silatolu and Irvin are high on my wish list - maybe 1a and 1b.

I like the guys taken in round 4, but they feel like Isaiah Stanback kind of picks. Interested to see where they ultimately get drafted. Saw Hardin as more of a 6th - UDFA guy -- position switch, didn't play in 2012. Great FS sleeper pick though. Thompson is just raw material at this point but was not expecting him to be so athletic. The question is, can he catch?

Regardless of the specific players, those are the positions that I hope to see addressed in rounds 1-3: DE, OG (or C), and OLB.

[BAT]

Originally Posted by Leadbelly

Really love the first three picks. Silatolu and Irvin are high on my wish list - maybe 1a and 1b.

I like the guys taken in round 4, but they feel like Isaiah Stanback kind of picks. Interested to see where they ultimately get drafted. Saw Hardin as more of a 6th - UDFA guy -- position switch, didn't play in 2012. Great FS sleeper pick though. Thompson is just raw material at this point but was not expecting him to be so athletic. The question is, can he catch?

Regardless of the specific players, those are the positions that I hope to see addressed in rounds 1-3: DE, OG (or C), and OLB.

Those first 3 picks would be ideal IMO. But if everyone prefers less small school/more well known picks from 4 thru 7 then:

1) DE Quinton Coples
2) OG Amini Silatolu
3) OLB Bruce Irvin
4) FS Markelle Martin
4) TE Ladarius Green
5) CB Coryell Judie
6) WR Tommy Streeter
7) KR/CB Cliff Harris

[BAT]

The All-Potential Draft:

1) NT Dontari Poe, Memphis, 6'4 350 4.98
2) C Kevin Zeitler, Wisconsin, 6'4 315 5.39
3) OG Brandon Brooks, Miami (Ohio), 6'5 350 4.99
4) ILB Ronnell Lewis, Oklahoma, 6'3 250 4.68
4) FS Brandin Hardin, Oregon State, 6'3 220 4.43
5) TE James Hanna, Oklahoma State, 6'4 255 4.49
6) OLB Braylon Broughton, TCU, 6'4 260 4.55
7) DE Markus Kuhn, North Carolina State, 6'5 300 4.89