McShay vs. Kiper

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by big dog cowboy

I know I tell this story every year, but pre-internet back in the 80's I called Kiper's office to buy his draft book and his wife answered the phone. We had a nice chat. Not sure why but at the time I thought that was pretty cool.

That is cool. I exchanged a couple of emails with her a while ago. It's pretty neat to see them so hands on with an operation that is so big now.

[SkinsandTerps]

Kiper does indeed have a staff. I know this as a fact.
His personal business is family run. But he has a staff that works for nothing that helps him with all of the potential draftees.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps

Kiper does indeed have a staff. I know this as a fact.
His personal business is family run. But he has a staff that works for nothing that helps him with all of the potential draftees.

Believe what you want to believe.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps

They do little research. Kiper has a pretty large staff and actually gets most of his info from college scouts that work for nickels. McShay is as you say more involved and hands on. Kiper reads what he is given, studies the hell out of it, and simply regurgitates that stuff.

I prefer McShay. then Mayock, then Kiper.

Of course they do research. Kiper knows about kids all up and down the draft, and McShay goes to pro days and talks to personell on the ground. I don't know that either are as good as pro scouts when it comes to talent evaluation, but even the pros get it wrong.

From the way they talk, neither of them even likes doing mock drafts but they make them do them because fans like to read them.

Kiper and McShay have their role, the problem begins when people take them too seriously like they actually represent an NFL team.