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Old 04-18-2012   #1
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Default I've listened to Stephen Jones talk twice

and both times he mentioned backup Tight End.


Then I see Bill Jones mock and he has us trading down and taking Fleener in the 1st round.


Now I could see us going Fleener in round 2 if he somehow was at our pick but I can't see us going TE until Round 3 at the earliest.


Anyone worried we may go TE in the 2nd round and it won't be Fleener?
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and both times he mentioned backup Tight End.


Then I see Bill Jones mock and he has us trading down and taking Fleener in the 1st round.


Now I could see us going Fleener in round 2 if he somehow was at our pick but I can't see us going TE until Round 3 at the earliest.


Anyone worried we may go TE in the 2nd round and it won't be Fleener?

I have been saying quietly for a while, if Jerry gets in the trader mode we have scene before and Dallas finds themselves in the bottom 10 of Round 1 the odds are your going to see either Doug Martin or Coby Fleener called.
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I'm worried we go TE before day 3 to be honest our track record drafting them round 2 or higher is not exactly good
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If we draft a #2 back up TE in the first 4 rounds I would be mad. We need a OG, DE, safety, CB, and Center, and #3 WR before we need a #2 TE. This offense was good enough with just Witten. Marty B didn't do anything great for us to think we can't be any worse with Phillips.
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I have been saying quietly for a while, if Jerry gets in the trader mode we have scene before and Dallas finds themselves in the bottom 10 of Round 1 the odds are your going to see either Doug Martin or Coby Fleener called.
I hope not, not that I wouldn't love to add both players, but there are other positions I'd go after first. I wouldn't bat an eyelash at either position in the 2nd though. Does Doug Martin really have a shot to go that high? The only other back i've seen sneak into the very end of the first in most mocks is David Wilson.
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I have been saying quietly for a while, if Jerry gets in the trader mode we have scene before and Dallas finds themselves in the bottom 10 of Round 1 the odds are your going to see either Doug Martin or Coby Fleener called.
Stephen Jones just sounds scared to death about us not having a backup TE.

He is OCD'ing about it. He pretty much said on the ticket that we couldn't field a team right now without one.


I like Fleener. 6'6, 4.5 40, with 37 inch vert, but come on now. Thats the last direction we should go in round 1.





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I hope not, not that I wouldn't love to add both players, but there are other positions I'd go after first. I wouldn't bat an eyelash at either position in the 2nd though. Does Doug Martin really have a shot to go that high? The only other back i've seen sneak into the very end of the first in most mocks is David Wilson.
I've been a big Doug Martin fan the last 2 seasons. I kinda hype up Boise State to my friends and Doug Martin is always the guy I talk about.

He's a very solid all around guy.


With that said I don't think the Cowboys should even think about him until round 3. There will be another Doug Martin next year.

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Well in that case, here's to hoping we've learned from the stupidity of drafting Fasano and Bennett early in the draft while in search of a "backup TE".
We need wins, and that's all we need. I don't give a damn about anyone on this roster over wins. I'd trade Ware, Lee and Dez if it meant more wins.
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I'm becoming wary of Stephen Jones as an evaluator of talent and the needs of this team.
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Stephen Jones just sounds scared to death about us not having a backup TE.

He is OCD'ing about it. He pretty much said on the ticket that we couldn't field a team right now without one.
How weird. What's wrong with John Phillips?
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Well in that case, here's to hoping we've learned from the stupidity of drafting Fasano and Bennett early in the draft while in search of a "backup TE".

This.

I'm tired of this repeated failure - and that's just what it is, a failure - to impliment this two TE offense that's supposed to be the next big thing.

I've heard about it for about 6 years now and the fact is that the Cwoboys can't get it done.

New England can - and has - the Cowboys can't. Accept it.

And I'm tired of throwing resources down the well when the team has much bigger needs to fill.


"I don't understand it Stephen, it's opening day 2014, where is everybody?"
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I hope not, not that I wouldn't love to add both players, but there are other positions I'd go after first. I wouldn't bat an eyelash at either position in the 2nd though. Does Doug Martin really have a shot to go that high? The only other back i've seen sneak into the very end of the first in most mocks is David Wilson.
He is getting some buzz late 1 early 2, I do believe Mayock also had him as a possible late 1 guy earlier this week.
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It's pretty clear from their pursuit of Kellen Davis that they feel backup TE is a need. I'm not sure that their prototype is available in this draft, but I think Allen in the second round or Charles in the third round is a strong possibility.
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This.

I'm tired of this repeated failure - and that's just what it is, a failure - to impliment this two TE offense that's supposed to be the next big thing.

I've heard about it for about 6 years now and the fact is that the Cwoboys can't get it done.

New England can - and has - the Cowboys can't. Accept it.

And I'm tired of throwing resources down the well when the team has much bigger needs to fill.
I get what you're saying but im all for Fleener in round 2.


He is a Gronkowski clone and I would definetely give up a 2nd for Gronk spikes in Dallas.
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I get what you're saying but im all for Fleener in round 2.


He is a Gronkowski clone and I would definetely give up a 2nd for Gronk spikes in Dallas.

I don't dislike the player and I know he'd be a nice addition, but I just think the team has much bigger needs, especially with how little production they've gotten out of that #2 TE when they have drafted them.

Again, on my own list, plenty of other needs come up before #2 TE does.


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I have been saying quietly for a while, if Jerry gets in the trader mode we have scene before and Dallas finds themselves in the bottom 10 of Round 1 the odds are your going to see either Doug Martin or Coby Fleener called.
I can certainly understand the Fleener pick, but Doug Martin? I literally can't find a single reason to justify this. I understand Felix is in the last year of his deal but with DeMarco on board and the strong presumption that RB's are kind of a dime a dozen and their success is highly dependent on the blocking in front of them... if it were Trent, I'm OK with it. I'd be baffled if we chose Martin.
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