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04-23-2012
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#16
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1st Round Pick
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Originally Posted by DBOY3141
Jerry doesn't want to pay Jenkins 10 million a year after 2012, so he wants a CB.
Stephen doesn't want to pay Spencer 9 million a year this year, so he wants a OLB.
We will see on Thursday.
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That is a great point.
I don't think Jerry is much of a Mike Jenkins fan anyways. He's called him out on his toughness before.
I like Mike Jenkins but he isn't a leader type of guy but he'll play up or down to however the rest of the team is performing.
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04-23-2012
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#17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CATCH17
Im sure they do but they probably don't see much value in round 1.
You gotta get the DB's and DL early.
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Yeah, no value if keeping your QB healthy.
Rather then try to make sure he isn't injured, just get a better backup.
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04-23-2012
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#18
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Originally Posted by Joshmil53
I only want Secondary if his the name is Barron.
I only want PR if his name is Cox
I want DeCastro.
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An honest question, not running down your thoughts, because as a whole I agree with your thoughts, although I would also want Pass Rush if his name is Ingram.
Would you not want Pass Rush if his name is Ingram?
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04-23-2012
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#19
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I've got moxie
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Illini88228
Hope Tom C doesn't find out he doesn't have a vote anymore. Seriously, as if Jerry, Stephen, and Garrett each have 1 equal vote and that's how they pick players? This is just silly.
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No, it is just different than what all the successful teams in the league do. The fact that it hasn't worked in 16 years or so doesn't matter apparently.
I've been assured that Jerry is just a figurehead and his role is primarily to just "read reports" and call the draft picks.
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04-23-2012
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#20
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So, who exactly do Garrett and Ryan want? Does that even matter?
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04-23-2012
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#21
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Yeah, I'm guessing pass rusher is Cox and Barron/Kirkpatrick are secondary help. I wonder then, does that mean if we go one way in first round, does that mean we're looking for the other in the second?
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04-23-2012
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#22
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We may see some arm bars, kimuras, and triangle chokes in the Cowboys War Room if Cox, DeCastro, and Barron are all there at #14.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Illini88228
Hope Tom C doesn't find out he doesn't have a vote anymore. Seriously, as if Jerry, Stephen, and Garrett each have 1 equal vote and that's how they pick players? This is just silly.
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04-23-2012
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#23
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1st Round Pick
Years Donated 2010, 2011, 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoofbite
Yeah, no value if keeping your QB healthy.
Rather then try to make sure he isn't injured, just get a better backup.
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I think you can find a quality interior OL, especially in this draft, outside of Round 1.
For example give me a Barron / Zeitler combo over Decastro / Harrison Smith
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04-23-2012
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#24
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DBOY3141
Jerry doesn't want to pay Jenkins 10 million a year after 2012, so he wants a CB.
Stephen doesn't want to pay Spencer 9 million a year this year, so he wants a OLB.
We will see on Thursday.
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That was exactly what I was thinking.
Jerry doesn't like Jenkins but Spencer is okay because Spencer doesn't rock the boat.
Stephen wants the better player and wants to upgrade the weaker position.
Gunfight at high noon.
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04-23-2012
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#25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CATCH17
I think you can find a quality interior OL, especially in this draft, outside of Round 1.
For example give me a Barron / Zeitler combo over Decastro / Harrison Smith
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I honestly wouldn't have a problem with Barron.
I would have a problem with most of the OLBs who are projected to be there.
I think you have to address a need when you have so many players who fit the different needs.
S, DL and OL have to be the pick.
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04-23-2012
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#26
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1st Round Pick
Years Donated 2010, 2011, 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoofbite
I honestly wouldn't have a problem with Barron.
I would have a problem with most of the OLBs who are projected to be there.
I think you have to address a need when you have so many players who fit the different needs.
S, DL and OL have to be the pick.
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Im kind of the same way.
When the draft process started I was all about getting another OLB but I really think we need DL, DB, and interior OL in that order.
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04-23-2012
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#27
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SMCowboy
An honest question, not running down your thoughts, because as a whole I agree with your thoughts, although I would also want Pass Rush if his name is Ingram.
Would you not want Pass Rush if his name is Ingram?
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Agreed. Cox is definitely a "potential" pass-rushing 5T, but Ingram (or even McLellin, Curry, & Irvin) are all proven pass rushers.
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04-23-2012
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#28
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Senior Member
Joined: | Mar 2012 |
Location: | NE Penna (18704) |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesdojr
We may see some arm bars, kimuras, and triangle chokes in the Cowboys War Room if Cox, DeCastro, and Barron are all there at #14.
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that would be a great problem to have and I may want to trade with the Jets to get our pick @ #14 for their #16...they may want Floyd if he is there so at least two of these 3 could still be there
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04-23-2012
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#29
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Senior Member
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Location: | Canada |
Posts: | 3,235 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theogt
My guess is Jerry is the one that wants secondary help given his statements on the defensive front. I wonder if it's a question of (a) sitting tight thinking Barron will be there and (b) trading up for Fletcher Cox.
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My thought exactly. I'm with not trading up and letting the draft come to us.
There's always a player who was thought to go in the top 10 falling to 11-15.
There's always a guy thought to go in the middle rounds falling between picks 32-50.
Rather bump the 2nd rounder up than the 1st rounder if that's what we're going to do. There will be a pass rusher or a very good o-lineman worth moving up for near the top of the 2nd.
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04-23-2012
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#30
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You Can't Fix Stupid
Joined: | Aug 2011 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Illini88228
Hope Tom C doesn't find out he doesn't have a vote anymore. Seriously, as if Jerry, Stephen, and Garrett each have 1 equal vote and that's how they pick players? This is just silly.
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Why would Tom not have a say?
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