Promise Ring Draft

[couchscout]

Originally Posted by kiheikiwi

Couch and SDogo, i asked a question on the first page - no response so ill try again from a differant perspective.
Not sure if you guys know anyone in our organisation but - any idea what the stratagy is with not addressing the oline at all ? Are they really happy to stand pat with what we have (maybe obviously !) seems like alot of teams we will play got a lot stronger up front. How concerned are you guys about Romo's health again. Disclaimer - as a fan, I want to be estatic about our drafting. But color me puzzled ! Help !
Not trying to be negative, just looking for some perspective ,,, thanks.

I'll basically echo Sdogo. I told you guys pretty early on in the offseason to not be surprised if we basically stand pat at OG. This team likes Arkin and Nagy, and even Costa actually. Livings is gonna start, probably at RG, and then there is gonna be a big competition for our starters at C and LG. Arkin, Nagy, Bernadeau, Costa, Killa, maybe a draft pick and UDFA or two. The best 2 get the spots. I think the Cowboys see Arkin and Nagy as future solid starters, so they don't wanna invest money or resources in "progress stoppers." They picked up some people who can hold down the fort for a season, half a season, how ever long it takes for Arkin and Nagy to get ready.

Aside from that, I'm very interested to see what Callahan is gonna do with Costa at the center position. Despite the seemingly terrible season he's coming off of, there is a lot of potential there. He has the ability to handle those big 3-4 NT's by himself in the run game. He needs to become much better as a pass protector, anchor better, and not get over extended. But if he can get a handle on those things, I think he can be a serviceable center.

[theogt]

Originally Posted by couchscout

Who cares about clean? I care about production!

Mo Claiborne? Dude couldn't even win the national championship last year! Loser

2nd Round? Oh wait, what second round? We traded it away for the championship game choker!

Tyrone Crawford? Who? That dude from Boise State? He plays on a blue field! How can you take that seriously?

Kyle Wilbur? Wake Forest? Really? Is this basketball? This guy sucks, can't wait till we cut him 4 hours in training camp so I can tell you all how right I was!

Matt Johnson? Hahahahah, a red field is ever more stupider than a blue one!!!

Danny Coale? If he's so good, why was he available in the 5th? Jerry, Jason, Stephen, and Tim all SUCK. I don't even know why I'm a fan of this crappy team!!



Did I do it right?

[CoCo]

Originally Posted by Randy White

What I'm about to post is not breaking news to either of you guys, but here it goes anyways.

a) You have the casual fan who follows the team faithfully, is upset with it's performance, watches some college football, then from January through April reads a couple of on-line draft guides and opinions, finds players he/she likes, projects them as the " obvious need filler " or " talent potential ", and convinces himself/herself that if the team does not get those players, that front office is brainless and should be replaced.

[View Full Quote]b) Then you have the fans who are not in the business but watches college football, have been following the draft for years ( even decades ), have his/her's favorite " pet cats ", but know fully well that more than likely the team will NOT select them, attempts to understand the logic behind the players that were actually selected, and realizes that, in the end, the draft is just an educated GUESSING process. ( that'd be me )

c) last, people as yourselves who are directly/indirectly connected to the business. Know more than most fans how the process works. Know people connected to the process that makes you aware of information that either most aren't or before it become public, still have your preferences but know very well that they will likely not happen, and try to explain the " method " behind the " madness ".

The reality is that places like this forum are going to have a majority of A, a solid base of B, and if fortunate enough, a couple of C's. If it was a school report card, it would be great, but unfortunately it's not, so it is what it is.

The only thing that could be done is for you C's to continue to try to educate and inform and it's up to the rest of us to use the information/lesson properly.

Good post!

I might add that folks have varying lenses of optimism/pessimism they tend to see life through. That impacts this as well.

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by couchscout

Who cares about clean? I care about production!

Mo Claiborne? Dude couldn't even win the national championship last year! Loser

2nd Round? Oh wait, what second round? We traded it away for the championship game choker!

Tyrone Crawford? Who? That dude from Boise State? He plays on a blue field! How can you take that seriously?

Kyle Wilbur? Wake Forest? Really? Is this basketball? This guy sucks, can't wait till we cut him 4 hours in training camp so I can tell you all how right I was!

Matt Johnson? Hahahahah, a red field is ever more stupider than a blue one!!!

Danny Coale? If he's so good, why was he available in the 5th? Jerry, Jason, Stephen, and Tim all SUCK. I don't even know why I'm a fan of this crappy team!!



Did I do it right?

Close, but not quite...

Needs a banghead smilie or two or three...

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Kind of a weird post from a pro scout...

So what do you think about Washington's draft?

If they draft a quarterback in the 7th round, it will be damn near perfect...

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by SDogo

I was headed for a Taylor Swift title but I could not bring myself to do it.

We would have had to revoke your man card...

[Phrozen Phil]

Originally Posted by silverbear

If they draft a quarterback in the 7th round, it will be damn near perfect...

I was waiting for that.

[SDogo]

Originally Posted by silverbear

We would have had to revoke your man card...

I lost that when I got married

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by Manwiththeplan

but all jokes aside, the thought of another year of Costa/Killa starting at center scares me, there were centers I feel we should've taken over some of these guys.

There will be a slew of centers out there after the draft is over, players like:

Scott Wedige, Northern Illinois
Mason Cloy, Clemson
Moe Petrus, Connecticut
Grant Garner, Oklahoma State
Rodney Austin, Elon
Jason Slowey, Western Oregon
Seth Oxner, Arkansas-Monticello

With the new 90 man roster limits, they might even sign two of them... I'm particularly intrigued by Slowey...

[TheDallasDon]

Good draft people need to wake up

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by silverbear

There will be a slew of centers out there after the draft is over, players like:

Scott Wedige, Northern Illinois
Mason Cloy, Clemson
Moe Petrus, Connecticut
Grant Garner, Oklahoma State
Rodney Austin, Elon
Jason Slowey, Western Oregon
Seth Oxner, Arkansas-Monticello

With the new 90 man roster limits, they might even sign two of them... I'm particularly intrigued by Slowey...

I post this, and almost immediately, Slowey gets drafted... damn...

[Randy White]

Originally Posted by couchscout

so they don't wanna invest money or resources in "progress stoppers." .

This, right there, IS the hardest part for most people to understand. When THAT message right there starts to sink in to people's minds, and I'm talking the media as well ( and more specifically the local media ), then things will look more clear and the stupid comments might become more rare.

The failure to understand THAT right there is why people at The Ticket are looking like morons this year.

[bigdrulez3141]

Hey couchscout, I remember when you siad something like "Mike Jenkins is one of the most impactful players on the team" last year. What do you think we are looking to get for him? and do you think it is a good idea?

[Manwiththeplan]

Originally Posted by silverbear

There will be a slew of centers out there after the draft is over, players like:

Scott Wedige, Northern Illinois
Mason Cloy, Clemson
Moe Petrus, Connecticut
Grant Garner, Oklahoma State
Rodney Austin, Elon
Jason Slowey, Western Oregon
Seth Oxner, Arkansas-Monticello

With the new 90 man roster limits, they might even sign two of them... I'm particularly intrigued by Slowey...

meh....another undrafted center to compete with the other undrafted centers we already have. seems like another season of 3rd and short/goal line failures and Romo running for his life. would love to be wrong, but Costa would need about an 180 degree turn around to even be solid. Killa may be better, but not by much and any undrafted guy will likely be the same.

[Bluestang]

Originally Posted by Randy White

This, right there, IS the hardest part for most people to understand. When THAT message right there starts to sink in to people's minds, and I'm talking the media as well ( and more specifically the local media ), then things will look more clear and the stupid comments might become more rare.

The failure to understand THAT right there is why people at The Ticket are looking like morons this year.

I don't know of many NFL teams that give up on a player the first year. That type of thinking is better left to the uninformed fan.