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04-29-2012
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Gil Brandt on Matt Johnson
I know people don't seem too happy with the pick but
Gil Brandt was all over it yesterday saying that if he had played
last year that he would have likely been a very high draft pick....
Said he kind of fell of the radar because of an injury at the end
of the prior season...encouraging,just thought I'd share
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04-29-2012
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You Can't Fix Stupid
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It's hard to argue with Gil..he's been right alot over the years
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04-29-2012
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Didn't this guy have the most career interceptions of all the guys that went to the draft? And he was out almost a whole season after, game 2 of his senior year right?
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04-29-2012
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#4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cowboy_ron
It's hard to argue with Gil..he's been right alot over the years
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If you look at Gil Brandt's Cowboy drafts from 1978-1988, you could find a lot of question with his opinions on players. Once the draft moved first to May (1978), then to March (1979), then to April (1980), Gil's information network advantage with coaches dried up, and he was exposed quite a bit.
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04-29-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fifaguy
Didn't this guy have the most career interceptions of all the guys that went to the draft? And he was out almost a whole season after, game 2 of his senior year right?
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That's the one 
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04-29-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Plankton
If you look at Gil Brandt's Cowboy drafts from 1978-1988, you could find a lot of question with his opinions on players. Once the draft moved first to May (1978), then to March (1979), then to April (1980), Gil's information network advantage with coaches dried up, and he was exposed quite a bit.
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Dude, he still knows more than you, me, and the rest of this board put together.
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"The restructures are built in. Everybody’s making a big to do about this. I don’t know why."- Stephen Jones
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04-29-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Plankton
If you look at Gil Brandt's Cowboy drafts from 1978-1988, you could find a lot of question with his opinions on players. Once the draft moved first to May (1978), then to March (1979), then to April (1980), Gil's information network advantage with coaches dried up, and he was exposed quite a bit.
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Yeah, his last draft in 1988 only netted Irvin, Ken Norton and Chad Hennings...he also drafted Mark Higgs, Scott Secules and Dave Widell who all played in the NFL....and he didn't have a 5th round selection. Definitely exposed... 
"You had better decide whether you're hangin' on the cross... or bangin' in the nails!"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JakeCamp12
Yeah, his last draft in 1988 only netted Irvin, Ken Norton and Chad Hennings...he also drafted Mark Higgs, Scott Secules and Dave Widell who all played in the NFL....and he didn't have a 5th round selection. Definitely exposed... 
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You're absolutely right - it wasn't talent that led them to be 1-7 in the second half of 1986, 5-7 in non-scab games in 1987, and 3-13 in 1988. One draft in 11 years does not make up for the utter ineptitude shown by Brandt and company in the draft once the event moved from January to April.
Keep one other thing in mind - not one NFL team looked to hire him once he was fired by Dallas. What does that tell you?
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04-29-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Plankton
You're absolutely right - it wasn't talent that led them to be 1-7 in the second half of 1986, 5-7 in non-scab games in 1987, and 3-13 in 1988. One draft in 11 years does not make up for the utter ineptitude shown by Brandt and company in the draft once the event moved from January to April.
Keep one other thing in mind - not one NFL team looked to hire him once he was fired by Dallas. What does that tell you?
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That they thought he was getting old.
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"The restructures are built in. Everybody’s making a big to do about this. I don’t know why."- Stephen Jones
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Quote:
Originally Posted by speedkilz88
That they thought he was getting old.
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Agreed, and for all we know he might have had offers but declined.
I can't believe I have to even defend Gil Brandt's reputation.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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04-29-2012
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#11
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THE BIG DOG
Years Donated 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedin' blue
I know people don't seem too happy with the pick but
Gil Brandt was all over it yesterday saying that if he had played
last year that he would have likely been a very high draft pick....
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That's impossible. He doesn't play OL.
This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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04-29-2012
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#12
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I was looking for analysis from Gil at NFL.com, but it all seemed to be from Mayock. Where is Gil making his his draft reports from now?
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04-29-2012
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#13
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Maybe this kid can be our next Harris, Waters or Billy Bates back there. Wouldn't that be grand.
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04-29-2012
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#14
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Anyone questioning Gil Brandt as a top authority on draft prospects should listen to his radio show on satellite. They take tons of calls from listeners and gets put on the spot with no real prep time. He's very plugged-in, but its most amazing to hear him rattle off detailed, personal backstory about no-name college prospects from all over the country. He's a national treasure of the NFL and its fans.
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04-29-2012
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#15
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Gil Brandt is Cowboys royalty and should be treated as such - show a little respect for our tradition. He is the last living of the 3 that built this franchise and should be revered from what he accomplished.
He is basicallly the guy who invented modern day scouting.
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