A Tired Criticism: "We drafted backups!"

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by esmith1790

what is ur faith in Carter?

It seems that the cowboys dont really have any faith in him.

They signed Conner as ILB.

There was talk that if they didnt trade up for Claibornne, they would have taken another ILB in round 2. Then late in the draft they took another ILB.

why spend all those resources, unless you think Carter is not ready.

I don't agree with that at all. They are losing two ILBs that played a ton of snaps last year and they need two to replace them.

Obviously there is still some unknown regarding Carter (there would have to be given the injury and no camp) but Conner was brought in for depth and to be in a rotation. That said nothing at all about Carter, it was just about value and stabilty at a position.

I even think Carter may get some reps at OLB.

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by The30YardSlant

21 players drafted in rounds 4-7 of the 2011 draft started at least 6 games last year in the NFL. So, no.

How many of those were on decent teams though?

If you suck you are likely to have far more holes to fill

How many started b/c of injury and not b/c they won the job?

[esmith1790]

Originally Posted by DFWJC

I don't agree with that at all. They are losing two ILBs that played a ton of snaps last year and they need two to replace them.

Obviously there is still some unknown regarding Carter (there would have to be given the injury and no camp) but Conner was brought in for depth and to be in a rotation. That said nothing at all about Carter, it was just about value and stabilty at a position.

I even think Carter may get some reps at OLB.

we need our 2nd rounders to start, we cant keep going into the draft looking for players to replace players we just drafted high. All we end up doing is runninng on a treadmill and getting no where.

i agree that carter is an unknown and Conner was brought in for a rotation player, but if they kept the 2nd and drafted another ILB, what would the rotation be then?

that is my point.

Lee starts, Carter starts with Conner as the rotation player. We have other lesser talented players on the roster at ILB and some UDFA are brought in at ILB.

why would the cowboys potentially draft another ILB high in the draft, 2nd round.

that means in year 2013, you have Lee and Wagner as your starters and Conner and Carter as your rotation guys?

Did we really just draft Carter to be a rotation only player?

that 2nd round pick could have been a OC in the draft, alot more impact to the team then just a depth rotation player at ILB.

[InmanRoshi]

If Carter could just become a great nickel LB like Kevin Burnett became at the end of his tenure with the Cowboys, he would be a huge asset, a huge upgrade from last year, and play a ton of snaps.

[esmith1790]

Originally Posted by InmanRoshi

If Carter could just become a great nickel LB like Kevin Burnett became at the end of his tenure with the Cowboys, he would be a huge asset, a huge upgrade from last year, and play a ton of snaps.

i totally agree, but if the cowboys drafted Wagner at that 45 pick, what would he play? Here and there and next year cut Conner?

So that means, 2013 would be Lee and Wagner starting and Carter as the nickel LBer?


I think the Cowboys need more then just a nickel ILBer with 2nd round picks.

They kept talking about getting 3 starters in all 3 rounds.

2013 draft we will probably just draft another DE to push Hatcher and Spears off the roster.

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by esmith1790

Did we really just draft Carter to be a rotation only player?

Nickel ILB isn't really seen by most staff as rotation -- that's an essential position

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by esmith1790

i totally agree, but if the cowboys drafted Wagner at that 45 pick, what would he play? Here and there and next year cut Conner?

Wow, you really want the team to not consider someone because of Dan Connor?

I think that is the true "running on a treadmill" thinking

[esmith1790]

Originally Posted by AbeBeta

Wow, you really want the team to not consider someone because of Dan Connor?

I think that is the true "running on a treadmill" thinking

I think Dan Conner is a wash compared to Brooking. I expect to get the same results out of him as we got out of Brooking.

At some point the draft picks have to start panning out. We cant keep spending picks to replace players we just drafted 2-4 years ago at the same position.

We need to start hitting on some so we can focus on the other needs.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by AbeBeta

and it wasn't about drafting guys who projected as career backups. It was about getting, say a RB, whose job it would be to backup Emmitt Smith. Do you honestly think we intentionally passed up higher talent guys?

But please -- show me the "direct quote"

Yes, I'm going to show you the direct quote from 17 years ago.

This was an epic fail thread. Shake it off and try again.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by The30YardSlant

IMO, if you don't come away with ONE player who can have a significant impact in year one in the last four rounds you failed. We'll see how we did a the season progresses. I really think Coale and Hanna can do some things from day one for us.

I don't think year 1 factors in anymore than year 2, or year 3 and so on.

[SilverStarCowboy]

Admittedly "Drafts of Christmas Past" make this one pretty scarey, we'll just have to wait and see on everyone outside of Mo.

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

Yes, I'm going to show you the direct quote from 17 years ago.

This was an epic fail thread. Shake it off and try again.

Says the guy who claims "direct quote" but can't dredge it up. When all else fails, shout out "epic fail." Don't say junk you can't back up, Fallen Star.

Seriously, you really think we pass up guys who can start because we want player who project to starters? That's the true fail of the thread, you mindlessly repeating some junk that has no basis in fact.