2012 Salary Cap Update Post #107 - (08/21/2012) -- $5,137,214 under - Page 8 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

AdamJT13 · 05-25-2012

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Originally Posted by CoCo

The only way that cost goes up is if we make a roster addition whose cost falls in our Top 51 or we redo someone's deal to be more costly in 2012.

It goes down by cutting loose guys currently in our Top 51 or redoing one of those Top 51 deals to lessen the 2012 cap hit.

Right?

He was talking about after the final cuts, when the Top 51 Rule no longer applies and everyone counts against the cap in full.

But to answer your question, there are other ways that we can lose cap room while the Top 51 Rule still applies. For example, we can lose cap room by signing someone who doesn't make our top 51 (such as a late-round draft pick) if he gets a signing bonus or by cutting someone outside our Top 51 before June 2 if he has signing bonus prorations that can accelerate into this season (such as one of our UDFAs).

AdamJT13 · 06-02-2012

Update (6/2/2012) -- Terence Newman’s release is now official. His cap charge goes from $8.016 million to $2 million for 2012, with $2 million in dead money left in 2013. He is replaced in our Top 51 by a player whose base salary is $465,000, giving us a net gain of $5.551 million in cap room. We are now $7,595,361 under the cap.

It should cost us $2,759,522 of cap room to sign all of our draft picks, which would leave us $4,835,839 under the cap if we don't make any other moves before then.

These should be the cap numbers for each of our draft picks --

Mo Claiborne........$2,957,182
Tyrone Crawford... $533,813
Kyle Wilber........... $499,805
Matt Johnson....... $465,146
Danny Coale........ $437,513
James Hanna....... $416,213
Caleb McSurdy..... $404,850

**MichaelWinicki** · 06-02-2012

Thanks Adam!

ravidubey · 06-04-2012

Seems like next year's dead money will be greatly reduced, the biggest hits probably from the NFL punitive action, Newman, and to a lesser degree Kosier.

Sounds like a comparitive windfall in available cap space between next year and this year.

Since the Cowboys signed a ton of free agents this year the team could be poised for an even bigger haul in 2013, though it will be a contract year for Romo.

AdamJT13 · 06-04-2012

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Originally Posted by ravidubey

Seems like next year's dead money will be greatly reduced, the biggest hits probably from the NFL punitive action, Newman, and to a lesser degree Kosier.

There's no dead money for Kosier next year. The only dead money for 2013 right now is Newman's $2 million.

RamziD · 06-04-2012

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Originally Posted by AdamJT13

Update (6/2/2012) -- Terence Newman’s release is now official. His cap charge goes from $8.016 million to $2 million for 2012, with $2 million in dead money left in 2013. He is replaced in our Top 51 by a player whose base salary is $465,000, giving us a net gain of $5.551 million in cap room. We are now $7,595,361 under the cap.

It should cost us $2,759,522 of cap room to sign all of our draft picks, which would leave us $4,835,839 under the cap if we don't make any other moves before then.

These should be the cap numbers for each of our draft picks --

Mo Claiborne........$2,957,182
Tyrone Crawford... $533,813
Kyle Wilber........... $499,805
Matt Johnson....... $465,146
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The above totals $5.7 million, not $2.7 million. Is there anything I'm missing here?

irishline · 06-05-2012

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Originally Posted by RamziD

The above totals $5.7 million, not $2.7 million. Is there anything I'm missing here?

Not 100% on this but fairly sure he means their cap hit is $2.7 when u factor in the rule of 51. Assuming the average salary for for players 45 to 51 is $425,00 that would be deducted from each of the draft pick salaries when calculating the cap...

Mo Claiborne........$2,957,182 -$425,000 = $2,532,182 cap hit
Tyrone Crawford... $533,813 - $425,000 = $108,813 cap hit
Kyle Wilber........... $499,805 - $425,000 = $74,805 cap hit
Matt Johnson....... $465,146 - $425,000 = $40,146 cap hit
Danny Coale........ $437,513 - $425,000 = $12,513 cap hit
James Hanna....... $416,213 = no change to cap
Caleb McSurdy..... $404,850 = no chage to cap

Not exact numbers since I obviously am not using actual salaries for players 45 to 51, but look at that its pretty close to the figure Adam gave,

Fla Cowpoke · 06-08-2012

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Originally Posted by irishline

Not 100% on this but fairly sure he means their cap hit is $2.7 when u factor in the rule of 51. Assuming the average salary for for players 45 to 51 is $425,00 that would be deducted from each of the draft pick salaries when calculating the cap...

Mo Claiborne........$2,957,182 -$425,000 = $2,532,182 cap hit
Tyrone Crawford... $533,813 - $425,000 = $108,813 cap hit
Kyle Wilber........... $499,805 - $425,000 = $74,805 cap hit
Matt Johnson....... $465,146 - $425,000 = $40,146 cap hit
Danny Coale........ $437,513 - $425,000 = $12,513 cap hit
James Hanna....... $416,213 = no change to cap
Caleb McSurdy..... $404,850 = no chage to cap

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That is EXACTLY the case. For each guy signed, a salary comes off the cap....so the addition to the cap is only the difference in salary, not the entire salary.

RamziD · 06-12-2012

Thank you both for clearing that up.

Blue Eyed Devil · 06-20-2012

AdamJT13, I'm concerned about our future money. The news came out today that the NFL is telling teams to expect a 120 million salary cap for the next 3 years, lower than 2009's salary cap. ESPN also reported (for whatever it's worth) that the Cowboys are already $20 million over the cap in 2014.

With Romo's contract being a bit of an open issue, where does this team stand with the cap in 2013+?

Have the lavish deals handed out to Carr, Ratliff, Free, Scandrick, and Sensabaugh put this team in a salary cap bind next season?

RastaRocket · 06-28-2012

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Originally Posted by Blue Eyed Devil

AdamJT13, I'm concerned about our future money. The news came out today that the NFL is telling teams to expect a 120 million salary cap for the next 3 years, lower than 2009's salary cap. ESPN also reported (for whatever it's worth) that the Cowboys are already $20 million over the cap in 2014.

With Romo's contract being a bit of an open issue, where does this team stand with the cap in 2013+?

Have the lavish deals handed out to Carr, Ratliff, Free, Scandrick, and Sensabaugh put this team in a salary cap bind next season?

I don't think it is a concern. We back load contracts for now so you can't really tell what the future actually looks like. As we have seen over the years, it is going to change a lot and there are many ways you can manage it and keep the players you want to keep.