As Long As The Dallas Media Fail To Put Any Thought, or Effort Into Their Articles ..

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

I'm usually not one to bash the media, because I do respect the job they do. I went to school for it and know how hard it is to even reach the level they have in this day and age.

But I gotta say the Dallas Morning News HAS stooped to a new low since the majority of their talent went to ESPN Dallas and the few decent articles they write go behind their pay wall. The worst yet is on their blog, they're running a "Best of" series of previous blog entries.

So instead of coming up with new material, they're regurgitating old material and then spinning it into a Best of series? That's terrible. SMH

and the sad thing was that it really was the best of what was here that went to BSPN.
Which is a pretty sad comment in itself

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

I'm usually not one to bash the media, because I do respect the job they do. I went to school for it and know how hard it is to even reach the level they have in this day and age.

But I gotta say the Dallas Morning News HAS stooped to a new low since the majority of their talent went to ESPN Dallas and the few decent articles they write go behind their pay wall. The worst yet is on their blog, they're running a "Best of" series of previous blog entries.

So instead of coming up with new material, they're regurgitating old material and then spinning it into a Best of series? That's terrible. SMH

It's changed for sure.
They still are better than 95% of the papers out there...and win almost all the awards (along with the Boston Herald).

The problem is that media quailty in general has dropped off a cliff due to need for content--even at expense of quality.

[TwoDeep3]

Originally Posted by Verdict

So.... let me get this straight. What you are saying is that you expect the media, who get actually PAID to write about SPORTS to be less informed than the average fan who has to hold down a regular job that isn't writing about sports? Seriously?

Not what I said at all, really.

[TwoDeep3]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

we just have higher standards then you do.

You've tried making that point three times now. You have been wrong every time.

[tyke1doe]

Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

I'm usually not one to bash the media, because I do respect the job they do. I went to school for it and know how hard it is to even reach the level they have in this day and age.

But I gotta say the Dallas Morning News HAS stooped to a new low since the majority of their talent went to ESPN Dallas and the few decent articles they write go behind their pay wall. The worst yet is on their blog, they're running a "Best of" series of previous blog entries.

So instead of coming up with new material, they're regurgitating old material and then spinning it into a Best of series? That's terrible. SMH

As a journalist who is likely getting out of the business, the quality of journalism is deteriorating, especially in the Internet era. Now, everything is about "hits," and the more tintillating and controversial the story the better. I am a traditionalist and didn't want to think that is the way journalism is trending.

But when I saw a salacious story on our sight that had nothing to do with anything we produced but was just posted because it involved body parts, mutilation and controversy, I just shook my head and mourn the passing of a great institution.

We are an entertainment culture and have weaned a generation to be concerned only with entertainment. I wonder if this will ultimately - along with corporate greed - be our downfall as a society?

Anyway, forgive my rant. Just had to get some things off my chest.

[tyke1doe]

Originally Posted by TwoDeep3

One of the real problems WG is newsprint is headed the way of button hooks and the Edsel.

To be sure your point was correct that ESPN raped the marketplace of good writers.

But even the ones they are here are still better than message board Shakespeares who think writing something once in a blue moon means anyone can do it full time.

The reason the better sports reporters are leaving DMN for ESPN is because ESPN is the definitive brand as far as sports is concerned. And it is more of a multi-media establishment than the DMN.

Furthermore, ESPN has established the Internet market as far as sports is concerned, and grabbing DMN reporters only helps the company and hurts the DMN.

Pretty soon, the rising cost of news print, the dwindling advertisement dollars and the growing number of people who read their information from the Internet rather than the news will force the DMN to cutback its print schedule, forcing layoffs similar to what the New Orleans Times Picayune has experienced - which is moving to a three-day-a-week print cycle.

It's coming for other newspapers also because the Internet is the future, not print.

DMN reporters who understand this, got out while the getting was good. And there's no better place to land than ESPN, which aint going anywhere.

[Royal Laegotti]

Originally Posted by Verdict

I'm not sure what it has to do with that, but I am pretty sure that "1 playoff win in 16 years" was not mentioned to in the original post. You might as well have asked what does that have to do with blueberry pie, fish tacos, or bad hair days. All are equally relevant to my original post.

No matter how "bad" the Dallas media is/gets the bottom line is this franchise has 1 playoff win in 16 years and it ain't got nothin' to do with media!

Enjoy your fish tacos, blueberry pie on your bad hair day.

[Royal Laegotti]

Originally Posted by Verdict

That is true. But can you visualize the decision makers who have hired these "sports writers" actually thinking they have hired an informed person to write the useless garbage that they put out on an every day basis?

If any in the Dallas media are reading this .... why don't you try writing something more insightful than writing: "The secret to winning is scoring more points than the other team?

Like it or not, media nowadays is not so much about facts and truth as it is about sensationalism and entertainment, they don't care if it's fact or fiction as long as it sells, generally speaking. If you don't like it quit reading their crap. I can't remember the last time I read a DMN column.

[CCBoy]

Originally Posted by TwoDeep3

You've tried making that point three times now. You have been wrong every time.

Not really, as to core of content. Which was his point...but you returned similar responds declaring content nill and void, as usual. Nice retort...when you point doesn't win the field, insult your way out. Cool..

Sports reporting in the fifties and sixties, were much more entertaining without losing value in the process.

[DandyDon1722]

Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

I'm usually not one to bash the media, because I do respect the job they do. I went to school for it and know how hard it is to even reach the level they have in this day and age.

But I gotta say the Dallas Morning News HAS stooped to a new low since the majority of their talent went to ESPN Dallas and the few decent articles they write go behind their pay wall. The worst yet is on their blog, they're running a "Best of" series of previous blog entries.

So instead of coming up with new material, they're regurgitating old material and then spinning it into a Best of series? That's terrible. SMH

The DMN is absolutely terrible and lacks such journalistic integrity it's hard to believe. In a recent online section they had a "Top Stories" section and at the head of the list was a forum discussion bashing Romo.

They also rely heavily on The Bleacher Report for links which is just below them for integrity. In fact, I called out a writer on Bleacher Report for a completely inaccurate article on Romo and he wrote me back saying he was from Pittsburgh and hated the Cowboys and he can write what he wants.

That's what it's come to.

[CCBoy]

Originally Posted by tyke1doe

The reason the better sports reporters are leaving DMN for ESPN is because ESPN is the definitive brand as far as sports is concerned. And it is more of a multi-media establishment than the DMN.

Furthermore, ESPN has established the Internet market as far as sports is concerned, and grabbing DMN reporters only helps the company and hurts the DMN.

Pretty soon, the rising cost of news print, the dwindling advertisement dollars and the growing number of people who read their information from the Internet rather than the news will force the DMN to cutback its print schedule, forcing layoffs similar to what the New Orleans Times Picayune has experienced - which is moving to a three-day-a-week print cycle.

It's coming for other newspapers also because the Internet is the future, not print.

[View Full Quote]DMN reporters who understand this, got out while the getting was good. And there's no better place to land than ESPN, which aint going anywhere.

Just a social question here...you really in favor of value being dependent upon a microchip and internet vulnerabilities? Give me the old fashioned common sense approach, and I'll pay for the print. In the end, it is light years cheaper and easier to correct problems with.

Kind of like actually talking with someone instead of endless texting...you lose a huge part of the human elements.

[tyke1doe]

Originally Posted by CCBoy

Just a social question here...you really in favor of value being dependent upon a microchip and internet vulnerabilities? Give me the old fashioned common sense approach, and I'll pay for the print. In the end, it is light years cheaper and easier to correct problems with.

Kind of like actually talking with someone instead of endless texting...you lose a huge part of the human elements.

I agree with you, but the younger generation and the age of technology doesn't.

Advertisers aren't limited to newspapers and television as they were 30 years ago.

Moreover, the younger generation just aren't newspaper (print) readers. There are just too many venues to get information. This forum being one of them. If you don't like the DMN, you can come here or go to DallasCowboys.com or any number of sites that share Cowboys news.

Thirty years ago, you had to either read the DMN, the Dallas Times-Herald, the FWST or wait a month for your Dallas Cowboys Weekly.

I think you gain a bit by that - instant information. But you suffer from it also - a lack of quality journalism.

Consequently, newspapers have had to keep up. They're now moving more toward getting it out there than making sure it's right because the Internet is instantaneous.

That's not to say there isn't quality on the Internet. But I think quality is going to be pushed out to make way for entertainment and hits.

A story about Tony Romo refining his technique isn't going to get many hits. A story about Tony Romo being overrated is.

Why do you think Tebow is the leading story in football, in season and, sigh, off season?

I don't think there's been not one day ESPN First Take didn't mention his name.

It's because Tebow draws ratings, draws hits, draws readers. And ESPN and the rest of the sites are going to milk him for all he's worth. I like Tebow, but even I'm sick of it. But apparently, others aren't.

[tyke1doe]

Originally Posted by DandyDon1722

The DMN is absolutely terrible and lacks such journalistic integrity it's hard to believe. In a recent online section they had a "Top Stories" section and at the head of the list was a forum discussion bashing Romo.

They also rely heavily on The Bleacher Report for links which is just below them for integrity. In fact, I called out a writer on Bleacher Report for a completely inaccurate article on Romo and he wrote me back saying he was from Pittsburgh and hated the Cowboys and he can write what he wants.

That's what it's come to.

Unfortunately, the new "buzz" word in Internet journalism is "curator" instead of "reporter."

A curator is responsible for finding information on the Internet and linking to those sites. Why do the reporting when someone else has?

That's going to be a developing trend in newspapers as more and more reporters get cut to be replaced by curators who do nothing more than locate stories about the Cowboys through the World Wide Web.

[anj113]

its not just the media, there is just no integrity in this country anymore.. Its so sad and pathetic. Society as a whole has gone to crap

[AsthmaField]

Originally Posted by tyke1doe

I agree with you, but the younger generation and the age of technology doesn't.

Advertisers aren't limited to newspapers and television as they were 30 years ago.

Moreover, the younger generation just aren't newspaper (print) readers. There are just too many venues to get information. This forum being one of them. If you don't like the DMN, you can come here or go to DallasCowboys.com or any number of sites that share Cowboys news.

Thirty years ago, you had to either read the DMN, the Dallas Times-Herald, the FWST or wait a month for your Dallas Cowboys Weekly.

I think you gain a bit by that - instant information. But you suffer from it also - a lack of quality journalism.

[View Full Quote]Consequently, newspapers have had to keep up. They're now moving more toward getting it out there than making sure it's right because the Internet is instantaneous.

That's not to say there isn't quality on the Internet. But I think quality is going to be pushed out to make way for entertainment and hits.

A story about Tony Romo refining his technique isn't going to get many hits. A story about Tony Romo being overrated is.

Why do you think Tebow is the leading story in football, in season and, sigh, off season?

I don't think there's been not one day ESPN First Take didn't mention his name.

It's because Tebow draws ratings, draws hits, draws readers. And ESPN and the rest of the sites are going to milk him for all he's worth. I like Tebow, but even I'm sick of it. But apparently, others aren't.

You pretty much nailed it.