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Old 07-15-2012   #31
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I was responding to his scenario. The only way our offense is that bad is by injuries or the offensive line being completely inept again. Either way I can't blame the head coach for it.
If Garrett makes the decisions and has the power to get the players he wants, like some posters on this board claim, why not blame him? If Jerry is making the decisions with little consideration for other opinions, I agree that the coach can't be blamed. It comes down to the person that is making the decisions, Garrett or Jerry. I would like to know myself who is the person behind the team's approach to the oline.
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Old 07-15-2012   #32
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If Garrett makes the decisions and has the power to get the players he wants, like some posters on this board claim, why not blame him? If Jerry is making the decisions with little consideration for other opinions, I agree that the coach can't be blamed. It comes down to the person that is making the decisions, Garrett or Jerry. I would like to know myself who is the person behind the team's approach to the oline.
Garrett inherited no talent along the line. I can't exactly blame him for not fixing it in two seasons.

You need to know who is behind our approach that has led to this OL crisis? Really?

Well, it would take a complete lack of understanding football as well as someone who prefers flash over substance.

Oh, and the guy would need to have full authority over our football operations over the last several years.

Now who on Earth could that be?

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Old 07-15-2012   #33
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Suppose the defense improves in sacks, takeaways, and yards allowed per game. Let's say Dallas is 12-4 and wins the division.

But...

The scores of the game are generally 17 -19 points from the offense and the defense is only allowing 15 points a game as an average. The defense has fumble recoveries for touchdowns, safeties, and interception returns for touchdowns such that they can statistically account for at least 3 points a game by seasons end.

The offense is basically the same as this year with no 1000 yard rusher, about 5 rushing TDs, no 1000 yard WR, and Romo throwing 30 TDs but getting sacked 35 + times.

Rob Ryan will be sought after by other teams as a head coach but Dallas will still have Jason Garrett as HC. Under that scenario, what would Jerry do? And then, what should Jerry do?

well for that sceanrio to happen we must have had a lot of injuries, because for offense to score 17-19 points, where they have averaged in the 20s for the past 5-6 years, then something terribly has gone wrong.

in that case, if its injuries and you are dealing with a short hand, its not really garrett's fault.

and to another extend, people excused wade and blamed garrett (mostly because he was handed a job as opposed to most people's view of earning it). now, you are blaming garrett the head coach and not giving him credit for making the defense good. which seems that people just want to target garrett.
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Garrett inherited no talent along the line. I can't exactly blame him for not fixing it in two seasons.

You need to know who is behind our approach that has led to this OL crisis? Really?

Well, it would take a complete lack of understanding football as well as someone who prefers flash over substance.

Oh, and the guy would need to have full authority over our football operations over the last several years.

Now who on Earth could that be?
LOL. I felt like we would agree on the problem. I know who is the problem, just like you. It goes against the belief on this board that Jerry actually shares the decision making. I think Jerry gathers input from all his sources and then goes ahead and does what he wants anyway.
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Why would Garrett want a home in a city that he's not coaching in?


Especially St. Louis!
Okay, so here is what I got. Jason went to visit the Rams facility but he was not the leading candidate or anything. The article said interview but that's not what the GM said. Read on.

http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/01/...-for-rams-job/
It's a message board, that's what the topics are for.

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well for that sceanrio to happen we must have had a lot of injuries, because for offense to score 17-19 points, where they have averaged in the 20s for the past 5-6 years, then something terribly has gone wrong.

in that case, if its injuries and you are dealing with a short hand, its not really garrett's fault.

and to another extend, people excused wade and blamed garrett (mostly because he was handed a job as opposed to most people's view of earning it). now, you are blaming garrett the head coach and not giving him credit for making the defense good. which seems that people just want to target garrett.
Garrett does not coach the defense nor has he ever. The personnel decisions are Jerry's. Garrett does the offense and hangs up posters and slogans in the locker room reminding the players about the 90s.
It's a message board, that's what the topics are for.

What I don't understand...insistence...disdain...It's one thing to feel that way, and to say so. Why try to make other people agree with you....And why pretend...Disagree with me all you like...Don't start twisting mine or getting frustrated just because I don't want to eat the other half of that crap-sandwich you made for yourself...Because I don't happen to like crap sandwiches.
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If it is failure along the interior of the O line that holds us back then it becomes a case of who ignored the situation this last season. Either Jerruh or Red Ball or both. Whoever decided not to work harder to shore it up.
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Excuse me OP but what if.

The team loses every game?

See how ridiculous the what if game is.

Setting up strawmen to get a temperature reading off the masses here doesn't amount to cold oatmeal.
It's really not that far off that the offense could remain very similar in flaws and output since the 2007 banner year, and now with another year in a dynamic scheme and acquisitions atILB and DB, the defense could improve.

Okay but since you want to take the ball and go home so no one else can play math, logic, and probable outcome games, we can play your game so you will stay on the playground....

Who would stay if Dallas went 0-16? By the way, this would mean that Dallas failed to out score the opponents.
It's a message board, that's what the topics are for.

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Okay, so here is what I got. Jason went to visit the Rams facility but he was not the leading candidate or anything. The article said interview but that's not what the GM said. Read on.

http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/01/...-for-rams-job/
That article says nothing about him looking for a house in St. Louis anyway whether he became the coach or not.


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Garrett inherited no talent along the line. I can't exactly blame him for not fixing it in two seasons.

You need to know who is behind our approach that has led to this OL crisis? Really?

Well, it would take a complete lack of understanding football as well as someone who prefers flash over substance.

Oh, and the guy would need to have full authority over our football operations over the last several years.

Now who on Earth could that be?
Then why did the Cowboys draft Tyron Smith, an offensive lineman, in 2011?
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