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09-10-2012
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#31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erik_H
Miami just spent a top 10 pick a QB. They are not drafting a QB for the next few years at minimum.
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They had no choice.
If he doesnt show signs of being able to do it they will do it again real soon.
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09-10-2012
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#32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perrykemp
That's true -- its a very tricky business.
Take the Packers example. Had the Packers advanced from the NFC Championship game and gone to the Superbowl in 2007 would the Brett Favre have retired? Would have the Packers accepted him back from retirement?
If he had come back, Aaron Rodgers contract was up at the end of 2008 and I guarantee he would have felt snubbed enough sitting on the bench for 4 entire years that he would have left GB.
In fact, he probably would have raised a stink and they would have had to trade Rodgers away in the off-season.
In that scenario, the Packers would received very little if any value for their 2005 1st round draft pick.
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The packers probably wouldn't have even drafted him if Favre wasn't talking retirment prior. They drafted him because they thought they HAD to.
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09-10-2012
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#33
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Originally Posted by SDCowboy85
The packers probably wouldn't have even drafted him if Favre wasn't talking retirment prior. They drafted him because they thought they HAD to.
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This is what I want to avoid.
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09-10-2012
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#34
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Originally Posted by iowast8rs
This is what I want to avoid.
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I hear you. This coming offseason isn't the time though. Maybe in 2-3 more seasons but not now...unless they aren't actually planning on giving Tony a new (monster) contract. I don't think Romo is going to be talking retirement after this season...though behind this oline, who knows. lol
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09-10-2012
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#35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SDCowboy85
I hear you. This coming offseason isn't the time though. Maybe in 2-3 more seasons but not now...unless they aren't actually planning on giving Tony a new (monster) contract. I don't think Romo is going to be talking retirement after this season...though behind this oline, who knows. lol
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Agreed.
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09-10-2012
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#36
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Originally Posted by SDCowboy85
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Never really understood the smarmy smilie reply.
You've been weighed
You've been measured
And you've been found to be a casual fan
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09-10-2012
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#37
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With the new rules.....
If we draft a QB and he turns out to be a real gem of a QB while waiting under Romo to play.
Wont he just hit FA to get a starting job.....and with contracts only being 4 yrs....does it make sense to draft a QB ...if Romo will be here several more years?
Just asking....
John 16:22 And ye therefore now have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no one taketh away from you.
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09-10-2012
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#38
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Originally Posted by SDCowboy85
Romo's got another 5-6 years left. Why would we draft someone who won't be starting until he's 30 and half his career is already over? His eventual replacement doesn't even have a driver's license yet.
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Counting on anything more then 4 years is wishful thinking, regardless of how he plays now i do not expect Romo to be here or playing at a high level 5 years from now, QBs just don't tend to last that long. We should prepare for the day he's gone so we don't have to go trough the post Aikman years again, which honestly was nothing compared to what other teams go through.
Picking one when you need to is a great way to either burn multiple first round picks for one, end up with the likes of Jamarcus Russel, or even worse both. Do you think GB regrets spending a 1st on Rodgers 3 years before Favre retired (the first time)?
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09-10-2012
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#39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by baj1dallas
So you want them to draft a guy in the first round that won't play for the Cowboys, ever?
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I'd draft a guy and sent him on the bench for 4 or 5 years. Sure.
Turned out well for Green Bay.
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09-10-2012
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#40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ren
Counting on anything more then 4 years is wishful thinking, regardless of how he plays now i do not expect Romo to be here or playing at a high level 5 years from now, QBs just don't tend to last that long. We should prepare for the day he's gone so we don't have to go trough the post Aikman years again, which honestly was nothing compared to what other teams go through.
Picking one when you need to is a great way to either burn multiple first round picks for one, end up with the likes of Jamarcus Russel, or even worse both. Do you think GB regrets spending a 1st on Rodgers 3 years before Favre retired (the first time)?
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That's completely false. QBs are playing longer now than ever. And, again, they drafted Rogers because Favre was talking about retiring otherwise I doubt they'd have spend the 1st round pick on him.
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09-10-2012
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#41
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It's pretty simple. We draft BPA, especially in the early rounds.
Up until now, if a QB fell to us in the early rounds (think Brady Quinn), the value play was to trade down.
As Romo gets older, the value play will be to draft a QB who falls to us and we have rated as BPA.
In 2-3 years, if the drafts haven't fallen that way yet, the value play may well be to trade up for a QB if he falls close enough to us and we see a value drop right after him (think of the Claiborne trade this year).
But based on what I've seen the last few drafts, we won't reach.
The late rounds are a different story, of course. Absolutely go get a guy you like in the 4th or later.
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09-10-2012
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#42
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Draft
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erik_H
Miami just spent a top 10 pick a QB. They are not drafting a QB for the next few years at minimum.
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If they tank and have the #1 pick they deal Tannehill for a 3rd and draft Barkley.
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09-10-2012
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#43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SDCowboy85
That's completely false. QBs are playing longer now than ever. And, again, they drafted Rogers because Favre was talking about retiring otherwise I doubt they'd have spend the 1st round pick on him.
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Prove it, what evidence do you have that Romo will not only be playing here 5 years from now but playing at a high level? Guys like Farve are not the norm for QBs
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09-10-2012
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#44
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How about drafting OLinemen to keep Romo healthy longer?
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09-10-2012
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#45
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Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iowast8rs
Don't misunderstand my post, this type of planning ahead makes sense, regardless of the performance of the other NFCE QBs. I want to avoid the drought of QBs we had between Aikman and Romo.
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We are talking about DALLAS COWBOYS and their fans here.
Imaging drafting a 1st round QB and sitting him behind Romo for next 3 years! We are looking at controversy every time Romo throws an INT. Dallas will be a CIRCUS (an even bigger one).
I am not against drafting someone if the draft falls our way BUT do not go out of our way to pick one because it sends a very wrong message to our QB and our fans.
Ideally we would pick up someone in the 3rd round and groom him. Someone who actually has real potential and not like McGee. Someone who actually has a high enough completion percentage and a decent arm who needs to learn to read defense.
Someone LOW PROFILE!
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