Cop arresting a 77 year old Grandmother

[Lonestar94]

Originally Posted by Cowboys&LakersFan

Cops are serious ******bags.

Yeah, some. Usually the younger ones who think they're above the law.

[BBQ101]

Originally Posted by Denim Chicken

It should have nothing to do with your attitude (which is protected free speech); police officers should not be deciding whom to arrest or how to act based on some personal feeling of being respected or disrespected, but should follow standard procedures and constitutionally approved laws.

When the lady is belligerence and wont do what he asks, which is provide ID, what should happen?

I thought this was going to be some major deal where the officer abuses his authority and takes it out on some little old lady. After watching, she got exactly what she deserved.

If she had done what he asked, none of that would have happened. **** her. Good job Mr Police officer.

BBQ

[Denim Chicken]

Originally Posted by BBQ101

When the lady is belligerence and wont do what he asks, which is provide ID, what should happen?

I thought this was going to be some major deal where the officer abuses his authority and takes it out on some little old lady. After watching, she got exactly what she deserved.

If she had done what he asked, none of that would have happened. **** her. Good job Mr Police officer.

BBQ

I didn't watch the video, I was just commenting on the sentiment that you need to behave in a certain way to have your rights maintained.

From the context of your comments, I would say the officer may or may not have acted correctly—depending on what is the law in that state about providing identification when requested. If it is an arrestable offence, then so be it.

[Denim Chicken]

Originally Posted by Lonestar94

When a cop tells you to do something you do it. Have no problem with this.

Good dog. Sit. Stay.

[RoyTheHammer]

Originally Posted by Denim Chicken

It should have nothing to do with your attitude (which is protected free speech); police officers should not be deciding whom to arrest or how to act based on some personal feeling of being respected or disrespected, but should follow standard procedures and constitutionally approved laws.

If you show no respect to them, they will most likely not show any back to you. Pretty cut and dry. The lady failed to show id, she got arrested. Cop did nothing wrong. Lady wanted to try and be a smart mouth punk and she got what she deserved.. humiliation. We want cops to protect us yet some of us stick up for people who act like imbeciles and waste our police officers time with their nonsense. Funny to me how that is.

[MonsterD]

Interesting, in this video(scroll down on page) her grandaughter(the blonde woman) says at 10:20 that the officer had her ID in his hand. I still don't see it.

[Kangaroo]

Originally Posted by Denim Chicken

It should have nothing to do with your attitude (which is protected free speech); police officers should not be deciding whom to arrest or how to act based on some personal feeling of being respected or disrespected, but should follow standard procedures and constitutionally approved laws.

She refused to show her license and it is the same thing if you refuse to sign the ticket they can detain you and arrest you. He did not violate her due process or act out of his legal authority.

[joseephuss]

Originally Posted by Kangaroo

She refused to show he license and it is the same thing if you refuse to sign the ticket they can detain you and arrest you. He did not violate her due process or act out of his legal authority.

Nope, legally he did nothing wrong. I think he could have handled the situation a little differently. I think she could have, too. She was being a pain in the rear for no reason. Just get your drivers license out and give it to the cop. I don't know what his rush was. Sure she refused, but there is no hurry to take the next step and arrest her. Slow down and try a new angle of trying to get her to cooperate. If then she doesn't show her license, then proceed to the next step.

This type of stuff is not a common occurrence. There will always be a few jerks in any group, but that doesn't make every cop a bad guy or even the majority of them. I don't even think it is a large minority of police officers that act like jerks. I've never had a bad run in with law enforcement.

[Kangaroo]

Originally Posted by joseephuss

Nope, legally he did nothing wrong. I think he could have handled the situation a little differently. I think she could have, too. She was being a pain in the rear for no reason. Just get your drivers license out and give it to the cop. I don't know what his rush was. Sure she refused, but there is no hurry to take the next step and arrest her. Slow down and try a new angle of trying to get her to cooperate. If then she doesn't show her license, then proceed to the next step.

This type of stuff is not a common occurrence. There will always be a few jerks in any group, but that doesn't make every cop a bad guy or even the majority of them. I don't even think it is a large minority of police officers that act like jerks. I've never had a bad run in with law enforcement.

In the same instances they are human, just like when people on this board have bad days. It still comes back to peoples lack of manners. Exercise them not because you have to but because you should want to apply them in life.

[03EBZ06]

I think both acted somewhat irrationally.

She displayed bit of attitude and the cop displayed impatience. It shouldn't have escalated to arrest in 19 seconds for a routine traffic stop, when there wasn't any imminent threat to that cop.

[Joe Rod]

What's the problem? She told him to go ahead and he obliged.


Request granted!

[DallasCowpoke]

Originally Posted by 03EBZ06

when there wasn't any imminent threat to that cop.

How does he know that? The first thing when he walks up to the car is is her telling him "we need to hurry this up". If I'm an officer and the person immediately tells me what I need to do, that would send the message that A: you're going to be uncooperative, and B: why?

How does he know, in the back of that huge SUV, there's not some guy w/ a shotgun and a load of cash, drugs or whatnot, just waiting to raise up and pump a round in my chest?

Then the SECOND she told him "no", all bets are off.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Originally Posted by Rynie

Ok, but what about if you show a cop NOTHING but respect, and he's still a dick? That's all i get where I live.

I agree man. The cops in Texas take ******baggery to another level.

I still rememeber one time a cop told me to step out of the car because he thought I was illegal.

I told him I'm just Hispanic and a few other choice words.

[03EBZ06]

Originally Posted by DallasCowpoke

How does he know that? The first thing when he walks up to the car is is her telling him "we need to hurry this up". If I'm a officer and the person immediately tells me what I need to do, that would send the message that A: you're going to be uncooperative, and B: why?

How does he know, in the back of that huge SUV, there's not some guy w/ a shotgun and a load of cash, drugs or whatnot, just waiting to raise up and pump a round in my chest?

Then the SECOND she told him "no", all bets are off.

Just what threat did she pose? Did she threaten him at all? Was she disrespectful, yes, did she say anything to warrant any threat? NO

As for who could be in the van, it is his job to ensure there wasn't any threat when approaching a vehicle.

We could play what if game all we want but the fact is, she didn't pose any threat toward the cop, she was being bit uncooperative.

If anything that cop's emotional behavior got better of him because she didn't listen to him.

[KLJ]

while he might not have done anything illegal, he was a total d-bag and completely over-reacted.

sadly, it seems most people think this is perfectly acceptable behavior from cops.