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Old 09-24-2012   #16
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If a team decides to take the run away then you are going to have a hard time running. If you can't execute the game plan and plays that are called you are going to look bad.

We are having problems running the ball. Teams are scheming that. We haven't been able to run short yardage for awhile now. Teams are scheming that as well. If you can't run you have to pass. If you can't pass block then you are in deep kimchi. Now you can't run the ball, they're giving you the pass and you can't block their front four. On top of that you keep getting presnap penalties as well. Everyone looks like kimchi.

In the end football is blocking and tackling. Someone famous said that.
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The Cowboys keep trying to run the ball with little success. Romo is having trouble hitting plays down the field because he's under constant pressure. Murray is losing yards on a majority of his carries which is putting the offense in a lot of 3rd and long situations.

Even Murray's 48 yard run vs the Giants on opening night would have resulted in a loss had he not made something out of nothing. The offense has no punch because of the struggles on the line.
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I have no issues with garrett continuing to pound the rock. In fact, taking no chances was probably the smartest thing he did. Your defense is completely shutting down the other team and you have the lead in the game. What are you going to do have Romo back in shotgun slinging the ball all over the field when he is getting killed by the Oline?
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So when he called play action it worked right?

I dunno normally play action is set up by being able to run the ball. That was working....

I hear people complaining that he passed the ball on first down now you are complaining that he runs it on first down.

I agree with Laughenburg: playcalling is overrated.
I disagree. Playcalling is underrated and essential. Especially when you have league of parity and when all the teams have a chance to win every week.

Play action worked didn't it? It works not because the run is working. It works because it freezes the defenders for a split second into thinking about playing the run.
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How many snaps has Beasley or Harris had on Offense? Or Holmes?

It's always the same 3 out there.
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I have no issues with garrett continuing to pound the rock. In fact, taking no chances was probably the smartest thing he did. Your defense is completely shutting down the other team and you have the lead in the game. What are you going to do have Romo back in shotgun slinging the ball all over the field when he is getting killed by the Oline?
Are you the same CowboyRoy from my old board? I know he also liked pounding the rock and this team is never going to score enough points to win consistently trying to force the run. I'm not saying abandon the run but you can't force it when it's not there. The Cowboys are going to have to throw the ball to make the playoffs.
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They renamed it the flea flicker, so Garrett hasn't been able to find it on the Ipad.
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The Cowboys keep trying to run the ball with little success. Romo is having trouble hitting plays down the field because he's under constant pressure. Murray is losing yards on a majority of his carries which is putting the offense in a lot of 3rd and long situations.

Even Murray's 48 yard run vs the Giants on opening night would have resulted in a loss had he not made something out of nothing. The offense has no punch because of the struggles on the line.
That pressure happens because we kept trying to pound the ball un the middle on every 1st down.

Then on 3rd and long, Romo is pressured in a long passing play.

The pressure comes because of our predictability. Stop running on all the time on 1st down. Mix it up a bit. Throw it on 1st down while they are expecting run does wonders to our oline and our offense.
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Play calling isn't the issue. I ageee its overrated. I can watch any game and 90% of the calls I can tell you what they are gonna be. Its the play book that is the problem.
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If a D loads up the LOS and dares you to pass you can still try to run the ball. If they are scheming the run and you can still run then they are in deep trouble. If they stop the run which is what generally happens in that situation then you'd better be able to pass the ball and make them pay for loading up for the run.

Then if you can't pass the ball well because you have poor field position necessitating long drives and add in all the penalties you have a problem. Then add in their front four is putting undue pressure on your QB because you can't pass block well enough. That's a recipe for a big loss. You aren't going to call a lot of magical plays to beat the other team when you can't block.

I know this gets no traction because its not we suck he sucks they suck but this is the real problem Jason and the O has.

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I disagree. Playcalling is underrated and essential. Especially when you have league of parity and when all the teams have a chance to win every week.

Play action worked didn't it? It works not because the run is working. It works because it freezes the defenders for a split second into thinking about playing the run.
When I say playcalling is overrated, I mean playcalling from lay fans like you and I.

Can you intelligently discuss blocking schemes, techniques, route combinations, formations, coverage schemes, personnel limitations, packages, defensive fronts, etc.

I know I cannot.

I know it sounds good to say: run play action but I cannot help but think that a good playcalling decision needs to have all of what I just mentioned and more in the the decision.

I am an empirical reductionist so I guess generalizations like 'the playcalling is the problem' are not going to do much for me. I hear a lot of fans claiming that but when I read Sturm, Vela, Broaddus, CouchScout, Laughenburg, etc they do not say that and quite frankly they know better than us.

Sorry but i just do not believe that calling play action is suddenly going to make Cook not get blown up by the NT most running plays, Free suddenly have feet that are not in mud, Witten be able to anchor or catch passes that hit him in the hands etc.

You can call play action but who is to say that they can execute that either. Blaming Garrett and something as nebulous as 'playcalling' just doesn't do much for me. I think trying Parnell at RT and signing Holland to play RG would do much more than a couple more play action passes.
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That pressure happens because we kept trying to pound the ball un the middle on every 1st down.

Then on 3rd and long, Romo is pressured in a long passing play.

The pressure comes because of our predictability. Stop running on all the time on 1st down. Mix it up a bit. Throw it on 1st down while they are expecting run does wonders to our oline and our offense.
Romo gets pressured regardless what down he passes on this OL can't pass protect. The Cowboys are getting whipped up front. As for the running game Murray has nowhere to go he has to bounce plays outside and use his cutback ability to try and make positive yardage. That's what's caused him to have so many negative plays.
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The problem on offense is the line not playing well.
So you are saying that even if an opposing team knows exactly where the ball is going, 5 All Pro O linemen will cause success? I have a difficulty making that logical, or even reasonable.
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So you are saying that even if an opposing team knows exactly where the ball is going, 5 All Pro O linemen will cause success? I have a difficulty making that logical, or even reasonable.
Umm, that was what the cliche of the 90s Cowboys was: they rant the same few plays but executed them so well that it didn't matter that the opposition knew what was coming.

They won 3 SB.
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