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09-28-2012
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Originally Posted by SHAMSzy
You do know he has 5 turnovers in 3 games this year, right? The most in his first 3 games of any season of his career, so please harp down about him not turning it over. The TO's he has gotten this year have just been awful too, his interceptions have been high risk low reward. At least in the past they were in attempts of making big plays.
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Yes he has 5 turnover not getting much help up front but his play over the last couple of years has been amongst the top QB in the entire league this BS of well he need to run around and just try to make things happen is a joke, that is back yard football and while you can get away with it at time it is not what any team wants out of their QB. If that is your verion of running a offense or teaching a QB then you are so far off base it is not even funny
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09-28-2012
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#17
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Originally Posted by SHAMSzy
the Tony Romo that I learned to love from 06-09.
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You mean the difference in a healthy 27 year old QB dodging around on fresh young legs vs a beat up 32 year old vet who in the past 3 years has had a broken color bone, hand, ribs, punctured lung, ect ect ect.
I cannot imagine what happened to him ...... but I am positive its Garrett's fault.

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09-28-2012
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#18
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Originally Posted by SHAMSzy
Yeah this definitely is a pressing issue, the dreaded O-line.. but I'm telling you, for any of you who have the All-22 film, watch Romo in the past when he gets time and the present when he gets time. In the past he would make huge plays when he had time to throw, now on plays when he has time to throw he never throws for the big play.. almost always resorts to the check down unless its 3rd down. The old Romo used to make HUGE plays when he had time to throw. Now, all his big plays come off broken plays and using his unbelievable ability to move in the pocket and buy time (at this point he throws coaching out the window and just does what he feels instinctively). While his avg QB rating might be higher now and efficiency, his playmaking isn't as potent as it once was. If you guys are gonna keep just resorting to stats rather than talking about what you are SEEING then yeah, this convo is pointless.
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Playing against who? You mean when we had T.O.? You talking about when he wasn’t beat up (like last year, year before)? I don’t care if you have the god-sight from your all22—everything is not equal, so you cant make generalizations like this and be apt.
"When debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." ~Socrates
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09-28-2012
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I don't know if he's ruined his game, but he's going to ruin his health if he doesn't find a way to get him protected better.
But it does make me sad that we're never going to know the answer to your question, because all but 10 games of Tony's entire starting career is going to be played under an inexperienced coach who has to learn on the fly. I'd love to see what a veteran, proven, experienced OC would do with Tony -- imagine Tony in a Norv Turner offense -- but it's not going to happen, so we'll never know.
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09-28-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab
imagine Tony in a Norv Turner offense -- it's not going to happen and we'll never know.
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Thank God.
victory is ours
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09-28-2012
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#21
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Originally Posted by zrinkill
Thank God.
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Yes, what a disaster it would be to have Norv Turner as an OC. He's only gotten the most out of just about every QB he's ever coached.
I don't even understand your comment.
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Jason Garrett offense rank minus Tony Sparano: 18, 14, 7, 15, 15
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09-28-2012
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It's not just you.
Some other people who don't watch enough football think things like this, too.
When asked whether Jason Garrett is the right head coach for this team: "I don't think there is anyone else that could. I think he is an unbelievable coach. We've responded to him and he has made us better football players, better people. If you watch us I think we play with a certain relentless spirit." --Sean Lee
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09-28-2012
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#23
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Aut Viam Inveniam Aut Faciam
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The biggest problem with Romo is Romo. Instead of playing a style that suits him he has been trying to emulate Brady or whoever else he fancies at the moment. If you think back a few years ago he spent the entire off-season watching tape of Brady so that he could try to play like Brady in the pocket. Keep in mind that he took it upon himself to make these changes; it wasn't the staffs idea. If I remember correctly Aikman brought this very point up during the Bucs game, mentioning that it kind of irks the staff when Romo goes off on another tangent.
Craig
Chicago thought they had a QB in Rex Grossman, Carolina had faith in Jake Delhomme. What does this have to do with the Dallas Cowboys? It just might mean that Tony Romo isn't what we thought and we may have to move forward without him.
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09-28-2012
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Grr. Double-post.
When asked whether Jason Garrett is the right head coach for this team: "I don't think there is anyone else that could. I think he is an unbelievable coach. We've responded to him and he has made us better football players, better people. If you watch us I think we play with a certain relentless spirit." --Sean Lee
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09-28-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab
Yes, what a disaster it would be to have Norv Turner as an OC. He's only gotten the most out of just about every QB he's ever coached.
I don't even understand your comment.
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Only way Norv comes here is as a headcoach.
No thanks.
I would take JG as HC/OC every time over Norv Turner as HC/OC
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09-28-2012
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#26
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___Americas Fan___
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Trent Dilfer: "Tony [Romo] has greatness in him. I think when you talk to other people that really play the quarterback position, there's a few guys that really have incredible greatness in them, and Tony is one of them. I think the issue here is he needs more help from his teammates. I think they are not nearly as talented as people say they are, from 1 to 53. I'm talking about the total roster.”
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09-28-2012
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Run-loving Dino
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It's called a hypothetical. I know it's not going to happen.
Though if Norv got fired and couldn't be a HC, maybe. JG would still have to turn over control to him, though, and Jerry has always said he wants his HC to call plays.
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09-28-2012
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I don't understand the JG supporters, he has done nothing but make us an average football team with superb talent.
This has nothing do with athleticism or injuries. It has to do with Tony's bravery to throw the ball down the field. He was FEARLESS earlier in his career and that is what made our ball club successful in the 07-09 years. We had at least 3-4 huge plays a game, and at least 2-3 of them were created by Tony. This current team has been awful on offense, absolutely horrid. We have a pool of unbelievable talent, sorry but 15 ppg isn't getting it done and my finger is pointed at JG and JJ. JG for this bland play calling and limiting the offense/Romo, and JJ for refusing to build a real offensive line and resorting to hire Panthers/Bengals crumbs to protect our "franchise" QB.
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09-28-2012
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2007 was his best year and it isn't even close.
stats be damned.
if it weren't for tom brady he would have been the mvp.
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09-28-2012
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#30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zeroburrito
2007 was his best year and it isn't even close.
stats be damned.
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Thank you, thank you sir.
Finally someone with some sense.
07 was easily Romo's best year.
Before you bring up some silly stats, all I have to say is 13-3 Win/Loss with the passing game as the ball clubs biggest strength. Enough said.
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