Scandricks contract and Mike Jenkins

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

Quick FYI.. for those of you who enjoy vomiting:

Scandrick is counting 7.7 million against the cap this year, which is more than any other player on the roster not named Tony Romo, Demarcus Ware, Anthony Spencer, or Doug Free.

Unreal how we make such mind-numbing mistakes like this.

where did you see that?

he is a 2.98 million cap hit this year. He got paid 7.7 million this year due to the restructure bonus but that is prorated and doesn't all count towards the cap this year. Only 1.18 of that 5.9 million bonus does.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

ok and when we put three Cbs on the field now its Carr, Clai, and Scandrick. Jenkins is going to want to be a every down CB starter and paid like one. We wont have the money to franchise him. Also he held out this offseason for a new contract. jerry didn't budge one inch. Sorry dude but he is gone after this year.

Dude, it will be Jenkins on the field. NOT Scandrick. I guarandamntee that. Our best players will be on the field. I'm not saying he'll re-sign for sure, but don't write it off as unrealistic.

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

Quick FYI.. for those of you who enjoy vomiting:

Scandrick is counting 7.7 million against the cap this year, which is more than any other player on the roster not named Tony Romo, Demarcus Ware, Anthony Spencer, or Doug Free.

Unreal how we make such mind-numbing mistakes like this.

[RoyTheHammer]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-co...ndo-scandrick/

then go to the nfl and read about how the signing bonus and restructure bonus is prorated so if you release a player the prorated money comes off the cap that year.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/...tract-blunders

According the the chart BTB has set up here, it looks like it would only cost about a million more against the cap if we cut him this offseason. If that's the case i would do so without hesitation.

[RoyTheHammer]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

where did you see that?

he is a 2.98 million cap hit this year. He got paid 7.7 million this year due to the restructure bonus but that is prorated and doesn't all count towards the cap this year. Only 1.18 of that 5.9 million bonus does.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/b...oys&id=4690308

[RoyTheHammer]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

ok and when we put three Cbs on the field now its Carr, Clai, and Scandrick. Jenkins is going to want to be a every down CB starter and paid like one. We wont have the money to franchise him. Also he held out this offseason for a new contract. jerry didn't budge one inch. Sorry dude but he is gone after this year.

Your continued misrepresentation and outright lying about facts is amusing to me. Its like you really don't want Jenkins on this team for some odd reason.

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/b...oys&id=4690308

again that bonus all doesn't count against the cap. it is prorated over the life of the contract at 1.18 a year. he was going to count that much towards the cap but that gave him that money in a bonus to keep his cap number low to free up space. They did the same for Free.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-co...ndo-scandrick/

you need to read your entire article on your own link
"On further inspection, however, it appears that the Cowboys restructured Scandrick's deal on March 13, during the great salary purge of 2012. His cap hit for 2012 has thus been reduced to a more manageable $2.98M"
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/...tract-blunders

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

Your continued misrepresentation and outright lying about facts is amusing to me. Its like you really don't want Jenkins on this team for some odd reason.

no im glad he is here but I just know he is gone after this year

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/...tract-blunders

According the the chart BTB has set up here, it looks like it would only cost about a million more against the cap if we cut him this offseason. If that's the case i would do so without hesitation.

ok so you cut him and it will cost an extra 2.74 million than to keep him then you have to sign jenkins at what price.

[RoyTheHammer]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

no im glad he is here but I just know he is gone after this year

You think based on the facts that he'll be gone. That's fine. You don't know something that the Cowboys front office doesn't even know yet.

Same with those guys during TC saying they KNOW Spencer is gone next year. Its just annoying. Sorry.

..and no offense, but for all the moaning you're doing about Jenkins and all the false stuff you've said about how crappy his play supposedly is, if you do want him here you sure don't act like it.

[RoyTheHammer]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

ok so you cut him and it will cost an extra 2.74 million than to keep him then you have to sign jenkins at what price.

If it is actually 2.74 million more, than that's a different story.. but again, from the chart made by BTB, it looks like it would be just about a million extra to cut him. Like i said, if that is the truth, i'd do it in a second and not think twice about it unless Scandrick all of a sudden makes a substantial improvement this season.

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

Your continued misrepresentation and outright lying about facts is amusing to me. Its like you really don't want Jenkins on this team for some odd reason.

what facts did I ever lie about, he did hold out, he didn't come to any of the OTAs. He also asked for a trade. But he is here now and playing and thats great, go mike help us out as much as you can.

I just know there is no way he is coming back next year. I hope I am wrong but I hope we don't over pay and skip on fixing the OL just so we can have him.

[RoyTheHammer]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

what facts did I ever lie about, he did hold out, he didn't come to any of the OTAs. He also asked for a trade. But he is here now and playing and thats great, go mike help us out as much as you can.

I just know there is no way he is coming back next year. I hope I am wrong but I hope we don't over pay and skip on fixing the OL just so we can have him.

Not coming to the OTA's isn't a holdout. lol He was rehabbing down in Florida.

There was media speculation that he was unhappy with his contract and demanded a trade, but no evidence to ever prove any of that. Just more shoddy journalism from writers trying to stir up controversy.

You also said that while he has been a solid cover corner in the past, he is not now and won't ever be again. Also a ridiculously silly statement.

Edit:

What else have you mistated or outright lied about?

Said he is always injured, said he is small for a cb, said he whiffs on tackles all the time, said he always moves to get out of the way of tackles, said he's only ever had one good year..

Shall i go on? lol

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

If it is actually 2.74 million more, than that's a different story.. but again, from the chart made by BTB, it looks like it would be just about a million extra to cut him. Like i said, if that is the truth, i'd do it in a second and not think twice about it unless Scandrick all of a sudden makes a substantial improvement this season.

right here add it up
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-co...ndo-scandrick/

his cap hit next year is 3.78 million.
if he is cut you will have to take the prorated signing bonus total of 1.8 million plus the prorated restructure bonus of 4.72 and get a total cap hit of 6.52 just to release him. Thats a difference of 6.52-3.78=2.74 million.

[RoyTheHammer]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

right here add it up
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-co...ndo-scandrick/

his cap hit next year is 3.78 million.
if he is cut you will have to take the prorated signing bonus total of 1.8 million plus the prorated restructure bonus of 4.72 and get a total cap hit of 6.52 just to release him. Thats a difference of 6.52-3.78=2.74 million.

If that is the case, then i agree it would be tough to release him.

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

Not coming to the OTA's isn't a holdout. lol He was rehabbing down in Florida.

There was media speculation that he was unhappy with his contract and demanded a trade, but no evidence to ever prove any of that. Just more shoddy journalism from writers trying to stir up controversy.

You also said that while he has been a solid cover corner in the past, he is not now and won't ever be again. Also a ridiculously silly statement.

i never said he wont be again. I just said he isn't a starter on this team. he may very well be a good cover CB next year and in the future but it wont be here. I said he was small. Thats my opinion. He is smaller than Carr and Claiborne. You can look at height and weight all you want but I look at actual size and bulk. you look at it your way I will mine.
When we play the nickel, who are the three CBs out there? Its Carr, Claiborne, and Scandrick in the slot. Not Jenkins. Jenkins is a out side CB. If he had any future with this team we wouldn't have went after Carr and Claiborne. I was ready to role with Carr and jenkins and was surprised that we traded up for Claiborne in the draft. But that just told me that they weren't going to give another big contract to another CB on this team.