Go Back   Dallas Cowboys Forum - CowboysZone.com > Main Forums > Fan Zone

Cowboys Chat: 0 user(s) online


Home  |  Fan Zone  |  News Zone  |  Draft Zone  |  Off-topic Zone  |  Forum Rules  |  Chat  |  ** Change Graphics **

Reply
 
Display Modes Thread Tools
Old 10-06-2012   #91
the_h0wey
Senior Member
 
the_h0wey's Avatar
 
Joined:
Mar 2005
Location:
Frisco, TX
Posts:
726
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Supercowboy1986 View Post


no WAY i would put peyton ahead of romo, he's been pretty bad. its clear he is not the same peyton, but people want to get him too much credit
Peyton has had 1 bad quarter this year, other than that he has not thrown a single pick.
Irish Eyes Are Smiling
the_h0wey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2012   #92
5Stars
Lonely Stranger
 
5Stars's Avatar
Years Donated
2007, 2009, 2012
 
Joined:
Jan 2006
Location:
Just passing thr
Posts:
22,441
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KJJ View Post
What a ridiculous question. Brees has won 5 playoff games including a SB win. He has a SB MVP award and holds several NFL passing records. He's passed for over 5000 yards 3 times which no other QB has ever done. Before Brees arrived in NO the Saints had arguably the worst history of any team in the NFL.

They were best known for losing and fans wearing bags over their heads in disgust during games. The Saints are currently 0-4 because the franchise was turned upside down due to bounty gate and they don't have their head coach.
So, you're saying football is a team thing, right? Players suspended, no coach...

What the hell do you think Romo goes through? He has no help, no run game, no receivers running the right routes...would the mighty Drew Brees do better with this team?

You can't have your cake and eat it too!

The mighty Drew Brees should be able to overcome some of his teams faults because he's the best in the business, many excuses for him...but Romo should be undefeated because his the QB, right?

OMG!
***

Predicting the future can be very hard, mostly because it hasn’t happened yet."
5Stars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2012   #93
Risen Star
Senior Member
 
Risen Star's Avatar
 
Joined:
Jan 2006
Posts:
14,779
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by venky View Post
Peyton Manning is still better than Romo, it's not even close. By the end of the season, I'll expect Peyton to be in top 2/3 QB form.
He's already there.

That dude is the best QB I've ever seen.

As for Romo/Ryan, I'd go Romo but it's close. I could easily put Ryan ahead by the end of the season.

-


We'll settle this with a good dust up.
Risen Star is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2012   #94
IAMKING
Banned
 
IAMKING's Avatar
 
Joined:
Oct 2008
Posts:
1,253
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeyBoy718 View Post
No Brees? And if you're talking about only this year, you might as well put a lot more than 7 QBs over Romo. He has more INTs than TDs and has a 75 QB rating.
Yea Bree's too I knew I was missing a better QB.
IAMKING is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2012   #95
Gemini Dolly
Senior Member
 
Gemini Dolly's Avatar
 
Joined:
Nov 2007
Location:
TeXas
Posts:
5,314
Default

For sure better than Romo no particular order
Aaron, Tom, Peyton, Eli, Drew, Ben

Maybe Better than Romo: Phillip, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco,

So, I have Romo around the 8-10 range for now


Gemini Dolly's twitter

QB Tony Romo has played 4 "Win or Go Home" games since 2008 (includes 2 playoff gms) -- in 3 of them, his QBR was less than 20"
---ESPNStatsINFO
Gemini Dolly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2012   #96
perrykemp
Senior Member
 
perrykemp's Avatar
 
Joined:
May 2008
Posts:
3,431
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 5Stars View Post

You can't have your cake and eat it too!

The mighty Drew Brees should be able to overcome some of his teams faults because he's the best in the business, many excuses for him...but Romo should be undefeated because his the QB, right?

OMG!
What are you smoking? Brees is on pace for 40 TDs and 5400 yards passing.

What excuses need to be made?
perrykemp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2012   #97
5Stars
Lonely Stranger
 
5Stars's Avatar
Years Donated
2007, 2009, 2012
 
Joined:
Jan 2006
Location:
Just passing thr
Posts:
22,441
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by perrykemp View Post
What are you smoking? Brees is on pace for 40 TDs and 5400 yards passing.

What excuses need to be made?
0 - 4, bro...no excuses.

***

Predicting the future can be very hard, mostly because it hasn’t happened yet."
5Stars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2012   #98
perrykemp
Senior Member
 
perrykemp's Avatar
 
Joined:
May 2008
Posts:
3,431
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 5Stars View Post
0 - 4, bro...no excuses.

Not sure what Brees can do about that 31st ranked defense.

If you want to rank Romo ahead of Brees: fine -- everbody is allowed to have an opinion. One of them is on pace for 40 TDs passing and one of them is on pace for 40 Turnovers....
perrykemp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2012   #99
5Stars
Lonely Stranger
 
5Stars's Avatar
Years Donated
2007, 2009, 2012
 
Joined:
Jan 2006
Location:
Just passing thr
Posts:
22,441
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by perrykemp View Post
Not sure what Brees can do about that 31st ranked defense.

If you want to rank Romo ahead of Brees: fine -- everbody is allowed to have an opinion. One of them is on pace for 40 TDs passing and one of them is on pace for 40 Turnovers....
And they get to pick up that check...

It's all good.
***

Predicting the future can be very hard, mostly because it hasn’t happened yet."
5Stars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2012   #100
burmafrd
Senior Member
Years Donated
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
 
Joined:
May 2005
Location:
WHITE SANDS NM
Posts:
38,205
Default

Brees, Brady, Manning 1 & 2 (Though one wonders a little about Peyton now)
Rodgers and the Rapist are probably the top tier. Romo next.

Ryan has done nothing; Schaub needs to show he can play a whole season now; Rivers is slowly sinking; and anyone talking about rookies is truly a moron.

Stafford also has to show he can be relied on.

So actually one can argue after the guys with Rings there is no one that can really be pointed at that is better then Romo.

Now of course this is predicated on him returning to form after the last game of course.
Las Cruces NM
White Sands NM

Where men are men and the sheep are scared!
burmafrd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2012   #101
RoyTheHammer
Cab to Kinko's
 
RoyTheHammer's Avatar
 
Joined:
Apr 2005
Location:
State College, P
Posts:
11,270
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowboys&LakersFan View Post
Where'd you get that stat and which year are you referring too?
This year. NFL website.
RoyTheHammer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2012   #102
venky
Senior Member
 
Joined:
Oct 2011
Posts:
190
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star View Post
He's already there.

That dude is the best QB I've ever seen.

As for Romo/Ryan, I'd go Romo but it's close. I could easily put Ryan ahead by the end of the season.
100% agreed. I'd draft Peyton over any other QB that has played the game.
venky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2012   #103
KJJ
You Have an Axe to Grind
 
KJJ's Avatar
 
Joined:
Aug 2009
Location:
Malibu Ca
Posts:
7,105
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 5Stars View Post
So, you're saying football is a team thing, right? Players suspended, no coach...

What the hell do you think Romo goes through? He has no help, no run game, no receivers running the right routes...would the mighty Drew Brees do better with this team?
Romo and the Cowboys didn't spend the offseason going through a bounty gate scandal where the franchise was humiliated and players and coaches were suspended. A major distraction like what the Saints have gone through and are still going through is going to have a major effect on a team.

Their 0-4 start isn't all that surprising to some. Brees is going through a much tougher situation in NO than Romo is in Dallas. Everyone keeps saying how bad Romo has it behind his OL when Brees has been sacked one more time than Romo.

Romo's been sacked 8 times this season which is the same number of sacks Aaron Rodgers suffered in one half vs Seattle. There's teams in the NFL who's OL is worse than the Cowboys so stop acting like it's Romo against the world.


Quote:
Originally Posted by 5Stars View Post

The mighty Drew Brees should be able to overcome some of his teams faults because he's the best in the business, many excuses for him...but Romo should be undefeated because his the QB, right?

OMG!
No team has ever had to deal with what the Saints have had to deal with entering this season. Sean Payton is one of the best coaches in the NFL it was a major blow to the organization to lose him for the entire season. Losing him shows what happens when a team doesn't have solid leadership at head coach. The Saints added to their problem by choosing one interim head coach for 6 games and another interim head coach the last 10 games.

That's basically saying they didn't have confidence in Kromer. If the Saints were smart they would have chosen one head coach for the entire season instead of sending a message to their team they don't believe in Kromer. Regardless of what the Saints are going through Brees is still having a statistically better year than Romo.

He's passed for more yards, TD's and has fewer picks than Romo plus his passer rating is higher than Romo's. Brees has had a much better career than Romo care to argue that? His career regular season numbers blow Romo's away and his playoff record is obviously a lot better and you're asking why is Brees better than Romo?
KJJ is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2012   #104
CowboysFanSince88
Senior Member
 
CowboysFanSince88's Avatar
 
Joined:
Feb 2009
Posts:
3,597
Default

If the Cowboys are 3-5 or 2-6 after the next 4 games then it's no way in hell Romo is a top ten QB. Especially if the Offense is not scoring points and please don't say anything to me about some O-line because Romo has thrown INT's when he had time to throw

Ravens

Panthers

Giants

Falcons


Those games will be the biggest of his career and it's time for him to show US HE CAN BALL
CowboysFanSince88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2012   #105
KB1122
Senior Member
 
Joined:
Mar 2012
Posts:
564
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tezz View Post
I would put Romo somewhere in the 7-10 range, but he is still a franchise QB which means he can lead the team to a superbowl.
This is a misimpression, though. Sure, any qb can lead a team to the Super Bowl. And any qb can win it, if he has a strong team around him. But those are generally one-offs. For the most part, there are about 6 quarterback every decade that have Hall of Fame-ish careers, and about 3-5 win the championships. The rest fight for the few scraps.
KB1122 is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 2004-2012 CowboysZone.com